From mattjones1961 at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 17:53:38 2009 From: mattjones1961 at gmail.com (Matt Jones) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:53:38 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] OROC Launch Poster Time Message-ID: <4987A3A2.9000608@gmail.com> Seeing as the BOD has posted the schedule, it time for me to start putting together the poster. If you have a good photo, email a copy to me. Remember it will have to fit a 8?x11 portrait page, so it needs to have a good resolution and be the right basic shape. What I'm looking for is something to show what the club is all about. It could be a crowd, a really cool launch, a bunch of rockets or anything else. Remember what the posters in the past look like and if you got a photo to fit the bill, send it to me. Thanks -=Matt Jones=- From kent.newman at comcast.net Mon Feb 2 21:09:55 2009 From: kent.newman at comcast.net (Kent Newman) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:09:55 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Tripoli - Puget Sound (41) - Call for Prefecture Candidates Message-ID: <35C70C9C24874F668677F5C3ECA76460@AntecP180> Greetings all! It is time to hold elections for Prefect and Secretary of Tripoli - Puget Sound (41). Requirements and responsibilities are as follows: Prefect: 1. Must be at least 21 years old. 2. Must be a responsible person having been a member of Tripoli for at least 1 year. 3. Must be certified Level 2. 4. Will oversee the Prefecture's compliance with all TRA rules and regulations. 5. Will certify TRA members to Level 1 and Level 2. 6. Will administer Level 2 written tests as required. 7. Will be responsible for keeping TRA apprised of local organization activities as necessary. 8. Will be available to attend the majority of local launches. Secretary: 1. Must be a responsible person having been a member of Tripoli for at least 1 year. 2. Will assist the Prefect in carrying out the business of the Prefecture. 3. Will conduct an annual Prefect election. Please forward names meeting the above requirements for the appropriate position to Andrew MacMillen @ andrew at hawkfeather.com. Nominations will close Saturday, February 7th, with the election following immediately. Regards, Kent Newman - Prefect Brad Wright - Secretary -------------- next part -------------- Greetings all! ? It is time to hold elections for Prefect and Secretary of Tripoli - Puget Sound (41). ? Requirements and responsibilities are as follows: ? Prefect: ? 1.??? Must be at least 21 years old.? ? 2.??? Must be a responsible person having been a member of Tripoli for at least 1 year.? ? 3.??? Must be certified Level 2.? ? 4.??? Will oversee the Prefecture's compliance with all TRA rules and regulations.? ? 5.??? Will certify TRA members to Level 1 and Level 2.? ? 6.??? Will administer Level 2 written tests as required.? ? 7.??? Will be responsible for keeping TRA apprised of local organization activities as necessary.? ? 8.??? Will be available to attend the majority of local launches.? ? Secretary: ? 1.??? Must be a responsible person having been a member of Tripoli for at least 1 year.? ? 2.??? Will assist the Prefect in carrying out the business of the Prefecture.? ? 3.??? Will conduct an annual Prefect election.? ? Please forward names meeting the above requirements for the appropriate position to Andrew MacMillen @ andrew at hawkfeather.com. ? Nominations will close Saturday, February 7th, with the election following immediately. ? Regards, ? Kent Newman - Prefect ? Brad Wright - Secretary ? ? ? ? ? From andrewm at hawkfeather.com Mon Feb 2 21:48:19 2009 From: andrewm at hawkfeather.com (Andrew MacMillen) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:48:19 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] [WAC-Members] Tripoli - Puget Sound (41) - Call for Prefecture Candidates In-Reply-To: <35C70C9C24874F668677F5C3ECA76460@AntecP180> References: <35C70C9C24874F668677F5C3ECA76460@AntecP180> Message-ID: <4987DAA3.1000405@hawkfeather.com> 2nd year reminder Kent: it's andrewm at hawkfeather.com ;) And can somebody post this to OROC as well / just in case? Thanx, Andrew. Kent Newman wrote: > Greetings all! > > > > It is time to hold elections for Prefect and Secretary of Tripoli - Puget > Sound (41). > > > > Requirements and responsibilities are as follows: > > > > Prefect: > > > > 1. Must be at least 21 years old. > > > > 2. Must be a responsible person having been a member of Tripoli for at > > least 1 year. > > > > 3. Must be certified Level 2. > > > > 4. Will oversee the Prefecture's compliance with all TRA rules and > > regulations. > > > > 5. Will certify TRA members to Level 1 and Level 2. > > > > 6. Will administer Level 2 written tests as required. > > > > 7. Will be responsible for keeping TRA apprised of local organization > > activities as necessary. > > > > 8. Will be available to attend the majority of local launches. > > > > Secretary: > > > > 1. Must be a responsible person having been a member of Tripoli for at > > least 1 year. > > > > 2. Will assist the Prefect in carrying out the business of the > > Prefecture. > > > > 3. Will conduct an annual Prefect election. > > > > Please forward names meeting the above requirements for the appropriate > position to Andrew MacMillen @ andrew at hawkfeather.com. > > > > Nominations will close Saturday, February 7th, with the election following > immediately. > > > > Regards, > > > > Kent Newman > > - Prefect > > > > Brad Wright > > - Secretary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > members mailing list > members at washingtonaerospace.org > http://washingtonaerospace.org/mailman/listinfo/members_washingtonaerospace.org From bar0051 at homenetnw.net Tue Feb 3 20:38:46 2009 From: bar0051 at homenetnw.net (Bryon Schopp) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:38:46 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Washington State L&I license renewal Message-ID: <27EAC45D6BA14CC69412D998EBF0F049@MEDIONDeskTop> I got my magazine license in the mail yesterday (Feb. 2) I mailed in the renewal forms back on Nov. 13. That means it took about 11 1/2 weeks to process the renewal. By getting it in before the end of Nov. I only had to pay $15 for the renewal, but next Nov, I will have to come up with $150. If you are less than 3 months from expiring you better get your renewal in the mail. Bryon Schopp -------------- next part -------------- I got my magazine license in the mail yesterday (Feb. 2)? I mailed in the renewal forms back on Nov. 13.? That means it took about 11 1/2 weeks to process the renewal.? By getting it in before the end of Nov. I only had to pay $15 for the renewal, but next Nov, I will have to come up with $150. ?If you are less than 3 months from expiring you better get your renewal in the mail.? ? Bryon Schopp From greg at blastzone.com Wed Feb 4 19:34:07 2009 From: greg at blastzone.com (Greg Deputy) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:34:07 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] so quiet Message-ID: <04ad01c98742$9a6bd800$cf438800$@com> What, the sun comes out and everyone is away from their computers? :) From greg at blastzone.com Wed Feb 4 23:11:15 2009 From: greg at blastzone.com (Greg Deputy) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:11:15 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Welcome Back Message-ID: <04e501c98760$ef44bf40$cdce3dc0$@com> Well, I thought it was quiet. I apologize, the list server died a silent death sometime in the last week. I just got back from the datacenter and its back up and running as normal now. From greg at blastzone.com Wed Feb 4 23:18:12 2009 From: greg at blastzone.com (Greg Deputy) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:18:12 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] test Message-ID: <04ff01c98761$e84a9830$b8dfc890$@com> testing From greg at blastzone.com Wed Feb 4 23:25:01 2009 From: greg at blastzone.com (Greg Deputy) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:25:01 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] testing Message-ID: <050001c98762$dbedf680$93c9e380$@com> Test... From greg at blastzone.com Wed Feb 4 23:26:57 2009 From: greg at blastzone.com (Greg Deputy) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:26:57 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] test Message-ID: <050101c98763$20b47820$621d6860$@com> test From greg at blastzone.com Wed Feb 4 23:29:43 2009 From: greg at blastzone.com (Greg Deputy) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:29:43 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] test In-Reply-To: <050101c98763$20b47820$621d6860$@com> References: <050101c98763$20b47820$621d6860$@com> Message-ID: <050201c98763$83bccb70$8b366250$@com> Hello out there...! Sorry for the silence, the list server fell over a couple days back and I didn't hear it hit the ground. Its been revived now, although messages sent to the list in the last few days are pretty much gone, except for in the archives. http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets -----Original Message----- From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On Behalf Of Greg Deputy Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:27 PM To: rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: [RocketsNW] test test _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets From greg at blastzone.com Wed Feb 4 23:51:46 2009 From: greg at blastzone.com (Greg Deputy) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:51:46 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] test References: <050101c98763$20b47820$621d6860$@com> Message-ID: <051f01c98766$9856a940$c903fbc0$@com> Ok, so the messages are not gone, they were all queued up. And now the floodgates are open. I apologize for all the 'test' message spam. -----Original Message----- From: Greg Deputy [mailto:greg at blastzone.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:30 PM To: 'Greg Deputy'; 'rockets at rocketsnw.com' Subject: RE: [RocketsNW] test Hello out there...! Sorry for the silence, the list server fell over a couple days back and I didn't hear it hit the ground. Its been revived now, although messages sent to the list in the last few days are pretty much gone, except for in the archives. http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets -----Original Message----- From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On Behalf Of Greg Deputy Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:27 PM To: rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: [RocketsNW] test test _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets From winningstad at comcast.net Thu Feb 5 06:11:46 2009 From: winningstad at comcast.net (Dennis Winningstad) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:11:46 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] [WAC-Members] Tripoli - Puget Sound (41) - Call for Prefecture Candidates In-Reply-To: <4987DAA3.1000405@hawkfeather.com> References: <35C70C9C24874F668677F5C3ECA76460@AntecP180> <4987DAA3.1000405@hawkfeather.com> Message-ID: <9DB13A32B3AB4F77949ACBB57BDF8F80@downstair> What if you're certified Level 3? Dennis S Winningstad 503-781-3529 -----Original Message----- From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On Behalf Of Andrew MacMillen Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:48 PM To: members at washingtonaerospace.org; rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] [WAC-Members] Tripoli - Puget Sound (41) - Call for Prefecture Candidates 2nd year reminder Kent: it's andrewm at hawkfeather.com ;) And can somebody post this to OROC as well / just in case? Thanx, Andrew. Kent Newman wrote: > Greetings all! > > > > It is time to hold elections for Prefect and Secretary of Tripoli - Puget > Sound (41). > > > > Requirements and responsibilities are as follows: > > > > Prefect: > > > > 1. Must be at least 21 years old. > > > > 2. Must be a responsible person having been a member of Tripoli for at > > least 1 year. > > > > 3. Must be certified Level 2. > > > > 4. Will oversee the Prefecture's compliance with all TRA rules and > > regulations. > > > > 5. Will certify TRA members to Level 1 and Level 2. > > > > 6. Will administer Level 2 written tests as required. > > > > 7. Will be responsible for keeping TRA apprised of local organization > > activities as necessary. > > > > 8. Will be available to attend the majority of local launches. > > > > Secretary: > > > > 1. Must be a responsible person having been a member of Tripoli for at > > least 1 year. > > > > 2. Will assist the Prefect in carrying out the business of the > > Prefecture. > > > > 3. Will conduct an annual Prefect election. > > > > Please forward names meeting the above requirements for the appropriate > position to Andrew MacMillen @ andrew at hawkfeather.com. > > > > Nominations will close Saturday, February 7th, with the election following > immediately. > > > > Regards, > > > > Kent Newman > > - Prefect > > > > Brad Wright > > - Secretary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > members mailing list > members at washingtonaerospace.org > http://washingtonaerospace.org/mailman/listinfo/members_washingtonaerospace. org _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets From pmschurke at seattleschools.org Thu Feb 5 08:32:49 2009 From: pmschurke at seattleschools.org (Schurke, Peter) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:32:49 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Ingraham TARC students conduct workshop for Elementary Latino Boys Message-ID: <844C3B8FA4FAED47AE3DAD6CD5EAF6A104CD68D2@CNOCEX04.seattleschools.org> Hi all Thought I'd forward on the brag and pictures that Mr. Carvajal sent out after our joint event this past weekend. After he posted a request for help on the list a couple of months ago, I got together with him and we started working on a plan to get my TARC teams and his elementary boys together for a workshop. I tasked my students with coming up with a curriculum that would keep up to 30 little 3rd-5th grade boys entertained and working for 3-4 hours. They really came through. By the time the day of the event came literally all I needed to do was open the door, turn on the lights and stand out of their way. My students were incredible--the adult chaperones couldn't stop raving about how professional a job they did. We put on a little display of rocketry for the elementary kids at the end of the day, then sent all of them home with their very own rockets they built themselves. It was an awesome day. With luck, in about 4-6 years I'll see some of those same kids coming to Ingraham and joining our program! Peter Schurke Teacher and Lead Advisor Ingraham Aerospace Sciences Academy Ingraham High School Seattle, WA ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- From: Carvajal, Guillermo Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:36 AM To: Floe, Martin; Schurke, Peter; Dellino, Carmela D; Murphy, Susie; Scott, Sandra Cc: Gallardo, Veronica; Slater, Linda R; Payne, Thelma; Preston, Janet; Hall, Thomas Subject: Ingraham students teaching elementary kids. Good morning, How do you talk about something special without sounding like one is trying to brag etc. The Ingraham high school students that conducted the 3 hr. workshop on Saturday were excellent. They were well prepared and friendly. A majority of these students will probably go on to careers that involved some form of teaching -they were that good. The Latino Achievers Club boys that participated were kids from Concord, Roxhill and Beacon Hill; 25 of them, not including parents and a few staff members. Everyone was engaged in the project. No incidents of misconduct, or distraction. This was the first time career that I saw young boys completely engaged for several hours without any type of distracting attitude. Their teacher, Peter, was more of a technical assistant, and allow his students to run the class. I knew to expect good work, but not to the high degree of professionalism that the kids and the rest of us received. I hope that this kind of engaged learning environment can be replicated in other schools. High school students actually doing the teaching---that is amazing. As for our elementary students - they were great. Respectful and engaged throughout. Thank you all for your support, Guillermo Carvajal -------------- next part -------------- Hi all Thought I'd forward on the brag and pictures that Mr. Carvajal sent out after our joint event this past weekend. After he posted a request for help on the list a couple of months ago, I got together with him and we started working on a plan to get my TARC teams and his elementary boys together for a workshop. I tasked my students with coming up with a curriculum that would keep up to 30 little 3rd-5th grade boys entertained and working for 3-4 hours.? They really came through.? By the time the day of the event came literally all I needed to do was open the door, turn on the lights and stand out of their way.? My students were incredible--the adult chaperones couldn't stop raving about how professional a job they did. We put on a little display of rocketry for the elementary kids at the end of the day, then sent all of them home with their very own rockets they built themselves.? It was an awesome day.? With luck, in about 4-6 years I'll see some of those same kids coming to Ingraham and joining our program! Peter Schurke Teacher and Lead Advisor Ingraham Aerospace Sciences Academy Ingraham High School Seattle, WA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carvajal, Guillermo Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:36 AM To: Floe, Martin; Schurke, Peter; Dellino, Carmela D; Murphy, Susie; Scott, Sandra Cc: Gallardo, Veronica; Slater, Linda R; Payne, Thelma; Preston, Janet; Hall, Thomas Subject: Ingraham students teaching elementary kids. Good morning, How do you talk about something special without sounding like one is trying to brag etc. The Ingraham high school students that conducted the 3 hr. workshop on Saturday were excellent.? They were well prepared and friendly. A majority of these students will probably go on to careers that involved some form of teaching ???they were that good. The Latino Achievers Club boys that participated were kids from Concord, Roxhill and Beacon Hill; 25 of them, not including parents and a few staff members. 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Name: LACpics1310909.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 64000 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/rockets/attachments/20090205/0dc2538b/attachment-0017.jpg From bar0051 at homenetnw.net Thu Feb 5 07:38:42 2009 From: bar0051 at homenetnw.net (Bryon Schopp) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:38:42 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Washington State L&I magazine license renewal Message-ID: <159066DE5760493D9CA5EBEF70FC63E3@MEDIONDeskTop> I got my magazine license in the mail this week (Feb. 2). I mailed in the renewal forms back on Nov. 13. That means it took about 11 1/2 weeks to get the renewal. By getting it in before the end of Nov. I only had to pay $15 for the renewal, but next Nov, I will have to come up with $150. If you are less than 3 months from expiring you better get your renewal in the mail. Bryon Schopp -------------- next part -------------- I got my magazine license in the mail?this week?(Feb. 2).? I mailed in the renewal forms back on Nov. 13.? That means it took about 11 1/2 weeks to?get the renewal.? By getting it in before the end of Nov. I only had to pay $15 for the renewal, but next Nov, I will have to come up with $150. ?If you are less than 3 months from expiring you better get your renewal in the mail.? ? Bryon Schopp From andrewm at hawkfeather.com Thu Feb 5 17:00:57 2009 From: andrewm at hawkfeather.com (Andrew MacMillen) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:00:57 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] paging Bryon Schopp Message-ID: <498B8BC9.2030201@hawkfeather.com> Could you ping me off-list? Thanx, Andrew. From kent.newman at comcast.net Fri Feb 6 14:14:17 2009 From: kent.newman at comcast.net (Kent Newman) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:14:17 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Washington Aerospace Meeting Message-ID: <8EF6E1B0055B47378A515A55A432F421@AntecP180> Greetings, all! A quick reminder that Washington Aerospace will hold its monthly tomorrow, Saturday, February 8th, at 7:00 p.m. at the Peace Lutheran Church in Puyallup. Agenda topics will include: * Review of 2008 club accomplishments and 2009 goals * Impact of new FAA regulations regarding hobby rocketry * Winter projects Q&A for all levels specifically level 1 & 2 fliers * Show and tell Regards, Kent Newman Washington Aerospace -------------- next part -------------- Greetings, all! ? A quick reminder that Washington Aerospace will hold its monthly tomorrow, Saturday, February 8 th , at 7:00 p.m. at the Peace Lutheran Church in Puyallup. ? Agenda topics will include: ? Review of 2008 club accomplishments and 2009 goals Impact of new FAA regulations regarding hobby rocketry Winter projects Q&A for all levels specifically level 1 & 2 fliers Show and tell ? Regards, ? Kent Newman Washington Aerospace From andrewm at hawkfeather.com Fri Feb 6 15:39:59 2009 From: andrewm at hawkfeather.com (Andrew MacMillen) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:39:59 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] [WAC-Members] Washington Aerospace Meeting In-Reply-To: <8EF6E1B0055B47378A515A55A432F421@AntecP180> References: <8EF6E1B0055B47378A515A55A432F421@AntecP180> Message-ID: <498CCA4F.4080401@hawkfeather.com> Can't say as how I've ever held a monthly. What does it feel like? Kent Newman wrote: > Greetings, all! > > > > A quick reminder that Washington Aerospace will hold its monthly tomorrow, > Saturday, February 8th, at 7:00 p.m. at the Peace Lutheran Church in > Puyallup. > > > > Agenda topics will include: > > > > * Review of 2008 club accomplishments and 2009 goals > * Impact of new FAA regulations regarding hobby rocketry > * Winter projects Q&A for all levels specifically level 1 & 2 fliers > * Show and tell > > > > Regards, > > > > Kent Newman > > Washington Aerospace > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > members mailing list > members at washingtonaerospace.org > http://washingtonaerospace.org/mailman/listinfo/members_washingtonaerospace.org From carl at mousetrap.com Fri Feb 6 15:54:00 2009 From: carl at mousetrap.com (Carl Hamilton) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:54:00 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] [WAC-Members] Washington Aerospace Meeting In-Reply-To: <498CCA4F.4080401@hawkfeather.com> References: <8EF6E1B0055B47378A515A55A432F421@AntecP180> <498CCA4F.4080401@hawkfeather.com> Message-ID: It's like a daily, but much, much bigger. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Andrew MacMillen wrote: > Can't say as how I've ever held a monthly. What does it feel like? > > Kent Newman wrote: > > Greetings, all! > > > > > > > > A quick reminder that Washington Aerospace will hold its monthly > tomorrow, > > Saturday, February 8th, at 7:00 p.m. at the Peace Lutheran Church in > > Puyallup. > > > > > > > > Agenda topics will include: > > > > > > > > * Review of 2008 club accomplishments and 2009 goals > > * Impact of new FAA regulations regarding hobby rocketry > > * Winter projects Q&A for all levels specifically level 1 & 2 fliers > > * Show and tell > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Kent Newman > > > > Washington Aerospace > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > members mailing list > > members at washingtonaerospace.org > > > http://washingtonaerospace.org/mailman/listinfo/members_washingtonaerospace.org > > _______________________________________________ > members mailing list > members at washingtonaerospace.org > > http://washingtonaerospace.org/mailman/listinfo/members_washingtonaerospace.org > -------------- next part -------------- On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Andrew MacMillen < mailto:andrewm at hawkfeather.com andrewm at hawkfeather.com > wrote: Can't say as how I've ever held a monthly. What does it feel like? Kent Newman wrote: > Greetings, all! > > > > A quick reminder that Washington Aerospace will hold its monthly tomorrow, > Saturday, February 8th, at 7:00 p.m. at the Peace Lutheran Church in > Puyallup. > > > > Agenda topics will include: > > > > * ? ? Review of 2008 club accomplishments and 2009 goals > * ? ? Impact of new FAA regulations regarding hobby rocketry > * ? ? Winter projects Q&A for all levels specifically level 1 & 2 fliers > * ? ? Show and tell > > > > Regards, > > > > Kent Newman > > Washington Aerospace > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > members mailing list > mailto:members at washingtonaerospace.org members at washingtonaerospace.org > http://washingtonaerospace.org/mailman/listinfo/members_washingtonaerospace.org http://washingtonaerospace.org/mailman/listinfo/members_washingtonaerospace.org _______________________________________________ members mailing list mailto:members at washingtonaerospace.org members at washingtonaerospace.org http://washingtonaerospace.org/mailman/listinfo/members_washingtonaerospace.org http://washingtonaerospace.org/mailman/listinfo/members_washingtonaerospace.org From lawndart.robert at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 15:58:15 2009 From: lawndart.robert at gmail.com (Robert Krausert) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:58:15 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] OROC Launch Poster Time References: <4987A3A2.9000608@gmail.com> Message-ID: <004901c988b6$c8134020$6901a8c0@LaptopKrausert> Thanks Matt. Support this effort completely. Matt obviously you can choose only a couple. If after making the selection from all offered, let us know and we can recognize them on the image gallery. Cheers, Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Jones" To: Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: [RocketsNW] OROC Launch Poster Time Seeing as the BOD has posted the schedule, it time for me to start putting together the poster. If you have a good photo, email a copy to me. Remember it will have to fit a 8?x11 portrait page, so it needs to have a good resolution and be the right basic shape. What I'm looking for is something to show what the club is all about. It could be a crowd, a really cool launch, a bunch of rockets or anything else. Remember what the posters in the past look like and if you got a photo to fit the bill, send it to me. Thanks -=Matt Jones=- _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets From kent.newman at comcast.net Fri Feb 6 16:16:42 2009 From: kent.newman at comcast.net (Kent Newman) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:16:42 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] [WAC-Members] Washington Aerospace Meeting In-Reply-To: References: <8EF6E1B0055B47378A515A55A432F421@AntecP180> <498CCA4F.4080401@hawkfeather.com> Message-ID: Yeah, that pretty much sums it up..like a daily,..only much, much bigger. :-) Kent _____ From: Carl Hamilton [mailto:carl at mousetrap.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:54 PM To: Andrew MacMillen Cc: Kent Newman; rockets at rocketsnw.com; members at washingtonaerospace.org Subject: Re: [WAC-Members] Washington Aerospace Meeting It's like a daily, but much, much bigger. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Andrew MacMillen wrote: Can't say as how I've ever held a monthly. What does it feel like? Kent Newman wrote: > Greetings, all! > > > > A quick reminder that Washington Aerospace will hold its monthly tomorrow, > Saturday, February 8th, at 7:00 p.m. at the Peace Lutheran Church in > Puyallup. > > > > Agenda topics will include: > > > > * Review of 2008 club accomplishments and 2009 goals > * Impact of new FAA regulations regarding hobby rocketry > * Winter projects Q&A for all levels specifically level 1 & 2 fliers > * Show and tell > > > > Regards, > > > > Kent Newman > > Washington Aerospace > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > members mailing list > members at washingtonaerospace.org > http://washingtonaerospace.org/mailman/listinfo/members_washingtonaerospace. org _______________________________________________ members mailing list members at washingtonaerospace.org http://washingtonaerospace.org/mailman/listinfo/members_washingtonaerospace. org -------------- next part -------------- Yeah, that pretty much sums it up???.like a daily,???.only much, much bigger??? ? J ? Kent ? From: Carl Hamilton [mailto:carl at mousetrap.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:54 PM To: Andrew MacMillen Cc: Kent Newman; rockets at rocketsnw.com ; members at washingtonaerospace.org Subject: Re: [WAC-Members] Washington Aerospace Meeting ? It's like a daily, but much, much bigger. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Andrew MacMillen < mailto:andrewm at hawkfeather.com andrewm at hawkfeather.com > wrote: Can't say as how I've ever held a monthly. What does it feel like? Kent Newman wrote: > Greetings, all! > > > > A quick reminder that Washington Aerospace will hold its monthly tomorrow, > Saturday, February 8th, at 7:00 p.m. at the Peace Lutheran Church in > Puyallup . > > > > Agenda topics will include: > > > > * ? ? Review of 2008 club accomplishments and 2009 goals > * ? ? Impact of new FAA regulations regarding hobby rocketry > * ? ? Winter projects Q&A for all levels specifically level 1 & 2 fliers > * ? ? Show and tell > > > > Regards, > > > > Kent Newman > > Washington Aerospace > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > members mailing list > mailto:members at washingtonaerospace.org members at washingtonaerospace.org > http://washingtonaerospace.org/mailman/listinfo/members_washingtonaerospace.org http://washingtonaerospace.org/mailman/listinfo/members_washingtonaerospace.org _______________________________________________ members mailing list mailto:members at washingtonaerospace.org members at washingtonaerospace.org http://washingtonaerospace.org/mailman/listinfo/members_washingtonaerospace.org http://washingtonaerospace.org/mailman/listinfo/members_washingtonaerospace.org ? From bigrockets at verizon.net Fri Feb 6 23:23:36 2009 From: bigrockets at verizon.net (Dave Proffitt) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:23:36 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] It was great Message-ID: <002b01c988f4$fdf13150$f9d393f0$@net> It sure was nice to see all my old friends and some new ones at the OROC meeting last night. Being over 50+ miles from Beaverton, it makes a long day for me considering I get up at 4am. I'll try making more meetings. I'll also try to makes some launches this year too. Dave Proffitt -------------- next part -------------- It sure was nice to see all my old friends and some new ones at the OROC meeting last night. Being over 50+ miles from Beaverton, it makes a long day for me considering I get up at 4am. I???ll try making more meetings. I???ll also try to makes some launches this year too. Dave Proffitt From faderlk at hotmail.com Sat Feb 7 09:09:54 2009 From: faderlk at hotmail.com (william carpenter) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:09:54 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Any Lvl. One Build Mentors in Kitsap County? Message-ID: Hello All, For FITS I decided to build a 4x upscale Estes Solar Warrior. I Rocksimmed it and it all was looking great. Then I found a hole in my plans. I discovered the G75 I was going to use was a high-power motor due to its propellant weight. All the G motors I (a minor) can use only get it to about 800". I'm suffering from a large amount of pride on this one, so sending my 50" long 2lb. creation up lower than my Estes Alpha doesn't sound right to me. It's too late to bail out on the project, as quite a bit has already been spent on parts. I should've done more research first, but it's too late for that. If I decide to do a Jr. Lvl. One Cert. with this rocket, then I'll need to find a build mentor. My question is as follows. Is there anyone with a hpr certification in Kitsap County who would be willing to help? I might just suck it up and fly it on a G, but I'll feed my pride for now. Thanks for any responses. Regards, William Carpenter _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 -------------- next part -------------- Hello All, ? For FITS I decided to build a 4x upscale Estes Solar Warrior. I Rocksimmed it and it all was looking great. Then I found a hole in my plans. I discovered?the G75 I was going to use was a high-power motor due to its propellant weight. All the G motors I (a minor) can use only get it to about 800". I'm suffering from a large amount of pride on this one, so sending my 50" long 2lb. creation up lower than my Estes Alpha doesn't sound right to me. It's too late to bail out on the project, as quite a bit has already been spent on parts. I should've done more research first, but it's too late for that. ? If I decide to do a Jr. Lvl. One Cert. with this rocket, then I'll need to find a build mentor. My question is as follows. Is there anyone with a hpr certification in Kitsap County who would be willing to help? I might just suck it up and fly it on a G, but I'll feed my pride for now. ? Thanks for any responses. ? Regards, William Carpenter Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 Check it out. From lawndart.robert at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 16:23:39 2009 From: lawndart.robert at gmail.com (Robert Krausert) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:23:39 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Way to go Vern!!! Message-ID: <001c01c98983$7edcf220$6901a8c0@LaptopKrausert> Vern, Looks like Angelfire powered by a sparky made the cover photo of February's issue of RocketsMagazine. What's that? Two lead articles in less than one year. History of Vern and web site in Extreme Rocketry, and now highlighted in RocketsMagazine. To the person with the Idaho license plate of "Rockets," I say well done. See you in May. Say 'hi' to Kate from me!!! Cheers, Robert -------------- next part -------------- Vern, Looks like Angelfire powered by a sparky made the cover photo of February's issue of RocketsMagazine. What's that? Two lead articles in less than one year. History of Vern and web site in Extreme Rocketry, and now highlighted in RocketsMagazine. ? To the person with the Idaho license plate of "Rockets," I say well done. ? See you in May. Say 'hi'?to Kate from me!!! ? Cheers, Robert From kmcgoffin at worldaccessnet.com Sun Feb 8 01:08:24 2009 From: kmcgoffin at worldaccessnet.com (kmcgoffin at worldaccessnet.com) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 01:08:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [RocketsNW] so quiet In-Reply-To: <04ad01c98742$9a6bd800$cf438800$@com> References: <04ad01c98742$9a6bd800$cf438800$@com> Message-ID: <8f9185efc109f00af1fbe2d7b424f0be.squirrel@www.wa-net.com> We're all just staring at our belly buttons pondering how a server "falls over." C'mon, cockroaches chewing the insulation off cables, sure. Mice nesting on top of nice, warm circuit boards, maybe. But FELL OVER????? I've been too busy building a chicken prison for my sister to think about rockets. Ironic thing is, I don't eat eggs. But I think maybe you can make rocket fuel out of chicken droppings in really hard times...nitrates, guanidine, oh yeah good stuff! And the joke potential is enormous. LOL +McG+ > What, the sun comes out and everyone is away from their computers? :) > > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > From michael at garvais.net Mon Feb 9 12:10:00 2009 From: michael at garvais.net (michael at garvais.net) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:10:00 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] =?utf-8?q?Any_Lvl=2E_One_Build_Mentors_in_Kitsap_Coun?= =?utf-8?b?dHk/?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54f581ac6f8a234464c27a068f8b066e@localhost> I'd be happy to help if I can. I'm a level 2 flier - and I live in Bremerton. Contact me off list and lets talk about this. Embrace the Low and slow flights. Big heavy rockets that pop at only 800 feet where everyone can see and hear parachute deploy are impressive. Well, at least once or twice. Then shove that I-357 in it and go for the long walk. :) -Michael Garvais On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:09:54 -0800, william carpenter wrote: > > Hello All, > > For FITS I decided to build a 4x upscale Estes Solar Warrior. I Rocksimmed > it and it all was looking great. Then I found a hole in my plans. I > discovered the G75 I was going to use was a high-power motor due to its > propellant weight. All the G motors I (a minor) can use only get it to > about 800". I'm suffering from a large amount of pride on this one, so > sending my 50" long 2lb. creation up lower than my Estes Alpha doesn't > sound right to me. It's too late to bail out on the project, as quite a bit > has already been spent on parts. I should've done more research first, but > it's too late for that. > > If I decide to do a Jr. Lvl. One Cert. with this rocket, then I'll need to > find a build mentor. My question is as follows. Is there anyone with a hpr > certification in Kitsap County who would be willing to help? I might just > suck it up and fly it on a G, but I'll feed my pride for now. > > Thanks for any responses. > > Regards, William Carpenter > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 From forttusken2001 at aol.com Mon Feb 9 13:35:36 2009 From: forttusken2001 at aol.com (Chris Stone) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:35:36 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Any Lvl. One Build Mentors in Kitsap County? In-Reply-To: <54f581ac6f8a234464c27a068f8b066e@localhost> References: <54f581ac6f8a234464c27a068f8b066e@localhost> Message-ID: <007e01c98afe$59e25060$0da6f120$@com> I am also level 2 in Bremerton. I agree with Michael, you want to get it back so sending it way up there isn't the best option. We did a project at Olympic College with a Supersonic rocket that was supposed to go around 9000' and totally lost it as well as any data it carried so the project was a total loss. Once you get the L1 cert out of the way then you can try for other things. Chris -----Original Message----- From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On Behalf Of michael at garvais.net Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 12:10 PM To: william carpenter Cc: rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Any Lvl. One Build Mentors in Kitsap County? I'd be happy to help if I can. I'm a level 2 flier - and I live in Bremerton. Contact me off list and lets talk about this. Embrace the Low and slow flights. Big heavy rockets that pop at only 800 feet where everyone can see and hear parachute deploy are impressive. Well, at least once or twice. Then shove that I-357 in it and go for the long walk. :) -Michael Garvais On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:09:54 -0800, william carpenter wrote: > > Hello All, > > For FITS I decided to build a 4x upscale Estes Solar Warrior. I Rocksimmed > it and it all was looking great. Then I found a hole in my plans. I > discovered the G75 I was going to use was a high-power motor due to its > propellant weight. All the G motors I (a minor) can use only get it to > about 800". I'm suffering from a large amount of pride on this one, so > sending my 50" long 2lb. creation up lower than my Estes Alpha doesn't > sound right to me. It's too late to bail out on the project, as quite a bit > has already been spent on parts. I should've done more research first, but > it's too late for that. > > If I decide to do a Jr. Lvl. One Cert. with this rocket, then I'll need to > find a build mentor. My question is as follows. Is there anyone with a hpr > certification in Kitsap County who would be willing to help? I might just > suck it up and fly it on a G, but I'll feed my pride for now. > > Thanks for any responses. > > Regards, William Carpenter > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets From hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net Mon Feb 9 14:55:59 2009 From: hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net (Hammer) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:55:59 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Any Lvl. One Build Mentors in Kitsap County? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4990B47F.8020108@earthlink.net> I couldn't remember what an Estes Solar Warrior looked so I looked it up. http://plans.rocketshoppe.com/estes/est0895/est0895.htm Robert william carpenter wrote: > Hello All, > > For FITS I decided to build a 4x upscale Estes Solar Warrior. I Rocksimmed it and it all was looking great. Then I found a hole in my plans. I discovered the G75 I was going to use was a high-power motor due to its propellant weight. All the G motors I (a minor) can use only get it to about 800". I'm suffering from a large amount of pride on this one, so sending my 50" long 2lb. creation up lower than my Estes Alpha doesn't sound right to me. It's too late to bail out on the project, as quite a bit has already been spent on parts. I should've done more research first, but it's too late for that. > > If I decide to do a Jr. Lvl. One Cert. with this rocket, then I'll need to find a build mentor. My question is as follows. Is there anyone with a hpr certification in Kitsap County who would be willing to help? I might just suck it up and fly it on a G, but I'll feed my pride for now. > > Thanks for any responses. > > Regards, William Carpenter > Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 Check it out. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > From faderlk at hotmail.com Mon Feb 9 15:11:33 2009 From: faderlk at hotmail.com (william carpenter) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:11:33 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Any Lvl. One Build Mentors in Kitsap County? Message-ID: Disregard my earlier question. My plans changed after posting it. Thanks for offering help though. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 -------------- next part -------------- Disregard my earlier question. My plans changed after posting it. Thanks for offering help though. Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 Check it out. From vern_knowles at att.net Mon Feb 9 18:37:47 2009 From: vern_knowles at att.net (Vern Knowles) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 19:37:47 -0700 Subject: [RocketsNW] Way to go Vern!!! In-Reply-To: <001c01c98983$7edcf220$6901a8c0@LaptopKrausert> References: <001c01c98983$7edcf220$6901a8c0@LaptopKrausert> Message-ID: <004701c98b28$91314dd0$0400a8c0@MainPC> Wow, thanks Robert. I did not know Angelfire was going to be on the February cover. That's a nice surprise. I would like to thank Tsolo for taking the photo and submitting it to ROCKETS magazine! More details about that flight are available here: http://www.vernk.com/XPRS2008.htm#Angelfire Vern Knowles www.vernk.com > -----Original Message----- > From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com > [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On Behalf Of Robert Krausert > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 5:24 PM > To: rockets at rocketsnw.com > Subject: [RocketsNW] Way to go Vern!!! > > Vern, > Looks like Angelfire powered by a sparky made the cover photo > of February's issue of RocketsMagazine. What's that? Two lead > articles in less than one year. History of Vern and web site > in Extreme Rocketry, and now highlighted in RocketsMagazine. > > To the person with the Idaho license plate of "Rockets," I > say well done. > > See you in May. Say 'hi' to Kate from me!!! > > Cheers, > Robert From scott at scottsrockets.com Mon Feb 9 18:40:01 2009 From: scott at scottsrockets.com (Scott T Bowers) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:40:01 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] [OT] Who wanted my GPS? Message-ID: Someone at the January wanted my Vista Garmin GPS, if it was you would you contact me off list? Scott T. Bowers www.scottsrockets.com -------------- next part -------------- Someone at the January wanted my Vista Garmin GPS,?if it was you would you contact me off list? ? Scott T. Bowers http://www.scottsrockets.com/ www.scottsrockets.com ? ? From faderlk at hotmail.com Mon Feb 9 20:42:48 2009 From: faderlk at hotmail.com (william carpenter) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 20:42:48 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] =?windows-1256?q?_RE=3A_Any_Lvl=2E_One_Build_Mentors_?= =?windows-1256?q?in_Kitsap_County=3F=FE?= Message-ID: Thanks for all the offers. We'll see what happens. My original plan was to build it, get certified in April, then have some fun at FITS. I then found out I was in a little over my head. I was really rushing things. I've lightened up the design, and now I can get 1100' on a G64. There's also the fact that I'm stuck in a rather strange position. My parents don't like the idea of anyone other than them buying high-power motors for me. The downside is niether one of them have any interest in getting certified (or launching rockets at all). Thanks for all the help, I may be asking again soon. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_022009 -------------- next part -------------- Thanks for all the offers. We'll see what happens. My original plan was to build it, get certified in April, then have some fun at FITS. I then found out I was in a little over my head. I was really rushing things. I've lightened up the design, and now I can get 1100' on a G64. ? There's also the fact that I'm stuck in a rather strange position. My parents don't like the idea of anyone other than them buying high-power motors for me. The downside is niether one of them have any interest in getting certified (or launching rockets at all). ? Thanks for all the help, I may be asking again soon. Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_022009 See how it works. From andrewm at hawkfeather.com Mon Feb 9 21:37:15 2009 From: andrewm at hawkfeather.com (Andrew MacMillen) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:37:15 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Tripoli - Puget Sound (41) Elections In-Reply-To: References: <000301c8773a$48a23e60$0200a8c0@AntecP180> Message-ID: <4991128B.3040401@hawkfeather.com> Greetings all! The candidates for Prefect and Prefecture Secretary for TRAPS 2009 are as follows: Prefect: Kent Newman Brad Wright Secretary: Denny Smith Brad Wright With the short list of candidates for each position, if Brad Wright should win the election for Prefect, he will automatically be dropped as a secretary candidate and Denny Smith will win as the sole candidate. Please forward your votes to me @ andrew at hawkfeather.com by Sat 2/14 and be sure to include your TRA membership number with your vote. No membership number - no vote. Thanx, Andrew. From lawndart.robert at gmail.com Tue Feb 10 18:16:52 2009 From: lawndart.robert at gmail.com (Robert Krausert) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:16:52 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] [Reminder] Packard Valentine Day Launch @ Memorial Park Wilsonville Message-ID: <001301c98bee$cef3eee0$6901a8c0@LaptopKrausert> Packard Valentine Day Launch @ Memorial Park Wilsonville What are doing this Valentine Day? Buying roses? A dozen roses can cost as much as a K1100 reload. Buying chocolates? What's the point of buying a fuel without an oxidizer? Why not take your loved ones to a model rocket launch? Consider the fun, excitement, family activity, social gathering, motivation of youth to science... and so much more. Kids!!! When you arrive, be sure to get a ticket for a special drawing. All attending kids with a ticket are in a drawing to win an ultimate Rocket Box. This is a personal rocketry tackle box containing vital onsite repair materials, plus extra room so you can pack your rocket supplies. You also get a launch controller with the box. Drag your "grown up" parents with you to the launch, and you have a chance at winning. Drawing will be at 2pm. Keith Packard is hosting the next Packard Model Rocket Launch event at Memorial park in Wilsonville, Oregon on February 14th, 2009. Setup begins at 11:00am, range is open for flights between 12:00pm and 3:00pm. This event is hosted by Keith Packard. We want to thank Keith. OregonRocketry is proud to help Keith Packard with this launch, by helping with ground support and staff to help ensure everyone has a chance to participate. New rocketry class 1, 2 and 3 are effective. The new US administration did not place this registration on hold. Class 1 rockets under the new FAR101 unmanned rocket rules include; (1) Uses no more than 125 grams (4.4 ounces) of propellant; (2) Uses a slow-burning propellant; (3) Is made of paper, wood, or breakable plastic; (4) Contains no substantial metal parts; and (5) Weighs no more than 1,500 grams (53 ounces), including the propellant. A through G motors are welcome, and even some H motors. You must however stay below our altitude limits. Conditions of the site hold altitude to 1,000 feet AGL or cloud deck, which ever is lower. An Aerotech Mustang on a G64, not a good idea (est. alt 3200 feet). A saucer on a G64, maybe. We need to control altitude and the surrounding rocket eating trees agree. Join us. Bring the family. Bring some rockets and have a great time flying. No RSVP necessary, just show up. When you arrive at the park, turn to the left and follow the road into the South East section of the field. I will be onsite to help Keith facilitate the event. Keith is the event director and has final approval for all aspects of the launch. Join us for the February 14th, 2009 Packard Valentine Day Model Rocket Launch Event @ Memorial Park in Wilsonville Oregon. Wilsonville Memorial Park 8100 SW Wilsonville Rd. Wilsonville, OR 97070 Getting strange looks from the family for wanting to fly rockets on Valentine day? Take the family for dinner after the event. Or take them home after the event for a great barbeque. What a great Saturday, BP / AP in the early afternoon and then a great dinner afterward. Fliers; Event time is 12:00pm - 3:00pm; all NAR rules apply, plus any additional rules / restrictions for this site. A fliers meeting right at noon, so everyone is on the same page for rules / restrictions. LCO tables are not for prep, please use the available tables in the prep area. This is a sanctioned launch event by National Association of Rocketry through NAR section 555 OREO (Steve Tarr). Come prepared for cold weather and wear boots/shoes that will keep feet warm and dry. Support staff; We are planning to arrive by 11:00am to scope out parking and field preference. Keith is bringing a six rod launch pad (has 1/8, 3/8, and 1/4" rods), and I'll be bringing LCO tables, flight line stakes, and my launch controller. So no OROC GSE is needed for this event. We need extra tables for the prep area. The only other thing I can think of is extra Estes ignitors. I'm planning to bring some spare motors and a bunch of different size Estes ignitors... They like to spit too often, so if you have extra ignitors and plungers, and can spare them, please bring. Certainly bring some rockets... I can also bring a bag of dog barf. A fliers meeting right at noon, so everyone is on the same page for rules / restrictions. Cheers, Robert -------------- next part -------------- Packard Valentine Day Launch @ Memorial Park Wilsonville What are doing this Valentine Day? Buying roses? A dozen roses can cost as much as a K1100 reload. Buying chocolates? What's the point of buying a fuel without an oxidizer? Why not take your loved ones to a model rocket launch? Consider the fun, excitement, family activity, social gathering, motivation of youth to science... and so much more. Kids!!! When you arrive, be sure to get a ticket for a special drawing. All attending kids with a ticket are in a drawing to win an ultimate Rocket Box. This is a personal rocketry tackle box containing vital onsite repair materials, plus extra room so you can pack your rocket supplies. You also get a launch controller with the box. Drag your "grown up" parents with you to the launch, and you have a chance at winning. Drawing will be at 2pm. Keith Packard is hosting the next Packard Model Rocket Launch event at Memorial park in Wilsonville, Oregon on February 14th, 2009. Setup begins at 11:00am, range is open for flights between 12:00pm and 3:00pm. This event is hosted by Keith Packard. We want to thank Keith. OregonRocketry is proud to help Keith Packard with this launch, by helping with ground support and staff to help ensure everyone has a chance to participate. New rocketry class 1, 2 and 3 are effective. The new US administration did not place this registration on hold. Class 1 rockets under the new FAR101 unmanned rocket rules include; (1) Uses no more than 125 grams (4.4 ounces) of propellant; (2) Uses a slow-burning propellant; (3) Is made of paper, wood, or breakable plastic; (4) Contains no substantial metal parts; and (5) Weighs no more than 1,500 grams (53 ounces), including the propellant. A through G motors are welcome, and even some H motors. You must however stay below our altitude limits. Conditions of the site hold altitude to 1,000 feet AGL or cloud deck, which ever is lower. An Aerotech Mustang on a G64, not a good idea (est. alt 3200 feet). A saucer on a G64, maybe. We need to control altitude and the surrounding rocket eating trees agree. Join us. Bring the family. Bring some rockets and have a great time flying. No RSVP necessary, just show up. When you arrive at the park, turn to the left and follow the road into the South East section of the field. I will be onsite to help Keith facilitate the event. Keith is the event director and has final approval for all aspects of the launch. Join us for the February 14th, 2009 Packard Valentine Day Model Rocket Launch Event @ Memorial Park in Wilsonville Oregon. Wilsonville Memorial Park 8100 SW Wilsonville Rd. Wilsonville, OR 97070 Getting strange looks from the family for wanting to fly rockets?on Valentine day? Take the family for dinner after the event. Or take them home after the event for a great barbeque. What a great Saturday, BP / AP in the early afternoon and then a great dinner afterward. Fliers; Event time is 12:00pm - 3:00pm; all NAR rules apply, plus any additional rules / restrictions for this site. A fliers meeting right at noon, so everyone is on the same page for rules / restrictions. LCO tables are not for prep, please use the available tables in the prep area. This is a sanctioned launch event by National Association of Rocketry through NAR section 555 OREO (Steve Tarr). Come prepared for cold weather and wear boots/shoes that will keep feet warm and dry. Support staff; We are planning to arrive by 11:00am to scope out parking and field preference. Keith is bringing a six rod launch pad (has 1/8, 3/8, and 1/4" rods), and I'll be bringing LCO tables, flight line stakes, and my launch controller. So no OROC GSE is needed for this event. We need extra tables for the prep area. The only other thing I can think of is extra Estes ignitors. I'm planning to bring some spare motors and a bunch of different size Estes ignitors... They like to spit too often, so if you have extra ignitors and plungers, and can spare them, please bring. Certainly bring some rockets... I can also bring a bag of dog barf. A fliers meeting right at noon, so everyone is on the same page for rules / restrictions. Cheers, Robert From carl20320 at msn.com Tue Feb 10 23:55:01 2009 From: carl20320 at msn.com (Carl Degner) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:55:01 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] [AD] Need to sell a few items Message-ID: 1) Build your own 2" all CF tubes! I would prefer to sell this all as a complete lot. ~111" 2 1/2" CF Sleeve (Sollar Comp. sells for 3.99/ft) ~114" 2" CF Sleeve (Sollar Comp. sells for 2.89/ft) 2 x 40" lengths of 3" Heatshrink tubing (Sollar Comp. 2.49/ft) 2 x 2" full length (36") PML Coupler tubes (~$10.50 EACH) The CF sleeve is measured by unfolding then laying flat. There is no pulling to make it longer. It is folded the same as it was when I bought it. This all adds up to about $110 + then having to pay shipping charges. I would like to get $85 and this will include mailing it to you. 2) Dr Rocket 75/6400 Desert Fire case + forward closure, Serial # 001. This does not include the aft closure. Has been used once by someone other than me. I bought it with hopes of flying an M650 in my Competitor 4 but that is not going to happen any time soon. The case and closure are in excellent condition. Personally, I consider the Desert Fire series to have been one of the best looking cases ever produced. I have a foam sleeve made from pipe insulation that I have this stored in that the motor case will be mailed in for protection. $375 shipping included 3) I have a spool of 1" mil-spec tubular nylon. It is kind of an olive drab color. I will likely never use all of it. $15/50' including shipping. If you wanted a longer length in one piece, contact me. 4) I have a copy of Mark Canepa's book "Modern High Power Rocketry". It is the 1st edition. $10 and it is yours. I am offering these up here first but if they don't move by the weekend, I will be listing on TRF, RP, or Ebay to increase exposure. I would prefer payment by USPS MO but can accept PayPal to this email address. Carl From andrewm at hawkfeather.com Wed Feb 11 13:47:36 2009 From: andrewm at hawkfeather.com (Andrew MacMillen) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:47:36 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Tripoli - Puget Sound (41) Elections In-Reply-To: <4991128B.3040401@hawkfeather.com> References: <000301c8773a$48a23e60$0200a8c0@AntecP180> <4991128B.3040401@hawkfeather.com> Message-ID: <49934778.50900@hawkfeather.com> My bad, an email typo again. That's what I get cribbing from Kent's email from last year ;) It's andrewm at hawkfeather.com Andrew MacMillen wrote: > Greetings all! > > The candidates for Prefect and Prefecture Secretary for TRAPS 2009 are > as follows: > > Prefect: > Kent Newman > Brad Wright > > Secretary: > Denny Smith > Brad Wright > > With the short list of candidates for each position, if Brad Wright > should win the election for Prefect, he will automatically be dropped as > a secretary candidate and Denny Smith will win as the sole candidate. > > Please forward your votes to me @ andrew at hawkfeather.com by Sat 2/14 and > be sure to include your TRA membership number with your vote. No > membership number - no vote. > > Thanx, > Andrew. > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > From andrewm at hawkfeather.com Fri Feb 13 09:33:11 2009 From: andrewm at hawkfeather.com (Andrew MacMillen) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:33:11 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Tripoli - Puget Sound (41) Elections In-Reply-To: <49934778.50900@hawkfeather.com> References: <000301c8773a$48a23e60$0200a8c0@AntecP180> <4991128B.3040401@hawkfeather.com> <49934778.50900@hawkfeather.com> Message-ID: <4995AED7.2020207@hawkfeather.com> Final reminder - votes are due by midnight. Andrew. Andrew MacMillen wrote: > My bad, an email typo again. That's what I get cribbing from Kent's > email from last year ;) > > It's andrewm at hawkfeather.com > > Andrew MacMillen wrote: >> Greetings all! >> >> The candidates for Prefect and Prefecture Secretary for TRAPS 2009 are >> as follows: >> >> Prefect: >> Kent Newman >> Brad Wright >> >> Secretary: >> Denny Smith >> Brad Wright >> >> With the short list of candidates for each position, if Brad Wright >> should win the election for Prefect, he will automatically be dropped as >> a secretary candidate and Denny Smith will win as the sole candidate. >> >> Please forward your votes to me @ andrew at hawkfeather.com by Sat 2/14 and >> be sure to include your TRA membership number with your vote. No >> membership number - no vote. >> >> Thanx, >> Andrew. >> _______________________________________________ >> Rockets mailing list >> Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > From glennb.graham at verizon.net Fri Feb 13 11:38:36 2009 From: glennb.graham at verizon.net (glennb.graham at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:38:36 -0600 (CST) Subject: [RocketsNW] Cub scout launch requests Message-ID: <2017837316.10707501234553916692.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Every year I see requests posted for recommendations on good locations for A-C motor launches for scouts and other kid groups. The replies I can remember have never been too hopeful and usually recommend asking your local school principal for permission. Just this week I got two requests from different cub scout packs. Both had contacted THPRD and been given a definite "no". So, I told them to contact their local middle school principal or science teacher to see if they would be more sympathetic. Does anyone have anything better? Both of these groups are in the Beaverton area. I really find it sad that THPRD, who has so many acres available, don't feel that they have to accomidate a wider range of activities at their fields. How do OMSI or Saturday Academy handle this for their classes that involve rockets? These kids are excited. It is a shame to not be able to encourage them. Thanks, -Glenn From robert.krausert at intel.com Fri Feb 13 12:55:19 2009 From: robert.krausert at intel.com (Krausert, Robert) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:55:19 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Cub scout launch requests In-Reply-To: <2017837316.10707501234553916692.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> References: <2017837316.10707501234553916692.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Message-ID: <0D4616E6925F9541919B60692F61509E1F7B8613@orsmsx502.amr.corp.intel.com> OROC w/ Keith Packard are holding a launch tomorrow, February 14th, from noon t0 3pm. Location is Wilsonville's Memorial Park. They are welcome to join. Cheers, Robert -----Original Message----- From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On Behalf Of glennb.graham at verizon.net Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 11:39 AM To: rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: [RocketsNW] Cub scout launch requests Every year I see requests posted for recommendations on good locations for A-C motor launches for scouts and other kid groups. The replies I can remember have never been too hopeful and usually recommend asking your local school principal for permission. Just this week I got two requests from different cub scout packs. Both had contacted THPRD and been given a definite "no". So, I told them to contact their local middle school principal or science teacher to see if they would be more sympathetic. Does anyone have anything better? Both of these groups are in the Beaverton area. I really find it sad that THPRD, who has so many acres available, don't feel that they have to accomidate a wider range of activities at their fields. How do OMSI or Saturday Academy handle this for their classes that involve rockets? These kids are excited. It is a shame to not be able to encourage them. Thanks, -Glenn _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets From keithp at keithp.com Fri Feb 13 13:03:54 2009 From: keithp at keithp.com (Keith Packard) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:03:54 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Cub scout launch requests In-Reply-To: <2017837316.10707501234553916692.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> References: <2017837316.10707501234553916692.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Message-ID: <1234559035.11303.192.camel@aiko.keithp.com> On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 13:38 -0600, glennb.graham at verizon.net wrote: > Every year I see requests posted for recommendations on good locations > for A-C motor launches for scouts and other kid groups. The replies I > can remember have never been too hopeful and usually recommend asking > your local school principal for permission. Just this week I got two > requests from different cub scout packs. Both had contacted THPRD and > been given a definite "no". So, I told them to contact their local > middle school principal or science teacher to see if they would be more > sympathetic. > > Does anyone have anything better? Both of these groups are in the > Beaverton area. I really find it sad that THPRD, who has so many acres > available, don't feel that they have to accomidate a wider range of > activities at their fields. How do OMSI or Saturday Academy handle this > for their classes that involve rockets? Robert Krausert and I are running regular model launches these days; we'll be holding one this Saturday at Memorial Park in Wilsonville from 12:00 until 3:00. Let me know if you need more information; he's been broadcasting details to the Oregon Rocketry mailing list. The Wilsonville parks department has been very supportive of this activity. Robert is trying to line up another launch site in Forest Grove, at which point we'll start alternating between the two locations. -- keith.packard at intel.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/rockets/attachments/20090213/9b88fbd8/attachment.pgp From jhadv at pacifier.com Sat Feb 14 12:22:44 2009 From: jhadv at pacifier.com (Paul Bogdanich) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:22:44 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] THPRD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20090214121646.00c3a008@mail.iinet.com> Given that the requests came from Boy Scout troops I would say that the THPRD is being intransigent as the activity would obviously be supervised. If your that interested in it then bring up the issue to the board of directors of the THPRD. they have public board meetings the first Monday of every month. Get more info at THPRD dot org or forget about the problems and just join the OROC sanctioned events. After all we have better infrastructure, supervision and insurance so we probably get more launches. From lawndart.robert at gmail.com Sat Feb 14 19:35:14 2009 From: lawndart.robert at gmail.com (Robert Krausert) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:35:14 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Krausert; Launch Report - February 2009 Message-ID: <001b01c98f1e$6b3e36c0$6901a8c0@LaptopKrausert> What a great day for flying some rockets. Today was the Packard Memorial Park Launch in Wilsonville. Arrived on site at 11:00am and began hauling GSE out into the field. Tom Ryerse arrived moments after and helped with the setup. Keith and friend arrived and then soon Mike. It was ready, and it was only 11:30. I of course needed to fly one to make certain the GSE was working. Estes Eliminator on a E9-8. Now before I continue I must declare that we use CD's as blast deflectors. Old AOL mail freebies and Britney Speers CDs work best. Racked and ready, I launched my rocket. Only to see it enter space at 30 feet over our heads spinning in all directions. Eventually going straight, for a cheap shot at Keith. The blast deflector had fused to the aft of the rocket and made for an interesting journey. My second flight was to get this rocket vertical. Loaded again with a E9-8, but this time I used a stopper so the motor would not rest on the blast deflector. Great flight deep into the clouds. It landed in a marsh area with no trails and park rules not to enter. This rocket landed between three fir trees, missing them all. 20 feet in any direction, and the rocket eating trees would have won. I recovered after the event by driving to the North park and getting easy access. And no I did not trample, I left the plants in peace. Rest of my time was spent doing LCO and taking pictures. Thanks Tim and John for breaks. Todays launch we had two of the federal NAR Board members, John Lyngdal and George Rachor, and NAR Section 555 President Steve Tarr. Also many other friends attending, Mike, Bob, Tim, Kim, and many more. Thank you all for your friendship and for attending. Special thanks to Keith for again hosting a great event. We at OregonRocketry are proud of the in-roads you've made to local model launches. What a great time. Now, I must talk about a new event today. Tim Ryerse had an idea. He wondered how having an actual rocketry box could help the kids. Lets hold a drawing at these events. During the last meeting we discussed trying at this launch. Tim got a small tackle box from Home Depot and filled it with repair gear, extra rocket parts, a controller, kit for a small pad etc. Topped off with a black OROC bumper sticker on the face of the box. And a letter and application to join OROC. During the launch today, I handed out raffle tickets to the kids. At 2pm we held the drawing. Riley won the box, congratulations. I knew that this made a huge impact when the winner, Riley, gave Tim a hug in thanks and gratitude. During the day, I never heard a negative comment. In fact I heard over and over how we need to get the word out, promote these events, and how we're making rocketry whole again. Police arrived twice today, never once stopping or questioning us. And yes, they drove slow enough to catch a few flights. We are working to promote on the web sie, plus many others are getting the word out to local scout and hobby shops. If Beaverton is so against us to have rocketry, maybe we shouldn't pay patronage in their town for meetings. We support them, and thus far Wilsonville (and soon Forest Grove) support us. I send a challenge out to Northwest fliers everywhere. Get in and talk with your City Council leaders and Fire Marshalls. Lets turn the Pacific Northwest into the "Free Flying Zone" of America. We together can take flying model rockets from the "Barely Any Place to fly" to "Many Places and Any Time." For you, for the scouts, for the future rocketeers, for the future engineers, for the future scientists, for so many reasons. Let's knock down those walls together. Take care all. I must send a very big thank you to Tim Ryerse for the rocket box and all the OROC information at the launch. You have helped the club in so many ways, and we truly appreciate the hard efforts. Regarding the rocket box, the hug by the winner is something I will remember forever. Well done. Very well done. I owe you a beer. Wanna be a board member, I've got an opening for promotions director. Steve Tarr has done a great job and has been creating a lot of promotions material for the science event and beyond. I'm thinking the OROC complete promotion material, events calenders with local media outlets, fliers, hobby store material, etc. If you're interested, I'm serious. Cheers, Robert -------------- next part -------------- What a great day for flying some rockets. Today was the Packard Memorial Park Launch in Wilsonville. Arrived on site at 11:00am and began hauling GSE out into the field. Tom Ryerse arrived moments after and helped with the setup. Keith and friend arrived and then soon Mike. It was ready, and it was only 11:30. I of course needed to fly one to make certain the GSE was working. Estes Eliminator on a E9-8. Now before I continue I must declare that we use CD's as blast deflectors. Old AOL mail freebies and Britney Speers CDs work best. Racked and ready, I launched my rocket. Only to see it enter space at 30 feet over our heads spinning in all directions. Eventually going straight, for a cheap shot at Keith. The blast deflector had fused to the aft of the rocket and made for an interesting journey. My second flight was to get this rocket vertical. Loaded again with a E9-8, but this time I used a stopper so the motor would not rest on the blast deflector. Great flight deep into the clouds. It landed in a marsh area with no trails and park rules not to enter. This rocket landed between three fir trees, missing them all. 20 feet in any direction, and the rocket eating trees would have won. I recovered after the event by driving to the North park and getting easy access. And no I did not trample, I left the plants in peace. Rest of my time was spent doing LCO and taking pictures. Thanks Tim and John for breaks. Todays launch we had? two of the federal NAR Board members, John Lyngdal and George Rachor, and NAR Section 555 President Steve Tarr. Also many other friends attending, Mike, Bob, Tim, Kim, and many more. Thank you all for your friendship and for attending. Special thanks to Keith for again hosting a great event. We at OregonRocketry are proud of the in-roads you've made to local model launches. What a great time. Now, I must talk about a new event today. Tim Ryerse had an idea. He wondered how having an actual rocketry box could help the kids. Lets hold a drawing at these events. During the last meeting we discussed trying at this launch. Tim got a small tackle box from Home Depot and filled it with repair gear, extra rocket parts, a controller, kit for a small pad etc. Topped off with a black OROC bumper sticker on the face of the box. And a letter and application to join OROC. During the launch today, I handed out raffle tickets to the kids. At 2pm we held the drawing. Riley won the box, congratulations. I knew that this made a huge impact when the winner, Riley, gave Tim a hug in thanks and gratitude. During the day, I never heard a negative comment. In fact I heard over and over how we need to get the word out, promote these events, and how we're making rocketry whole again. Police arrived twice today, never once stopping or questioning us. And yes, they drove slow enough to catch a few flights. We are working to promote on the web sie, plus many others are getting the word out to local scout and hobby shops. If Beaverton is so against us to have rocketry, maybe we shouldn't pay patronage in their town for meetings. We support them, and thus far Wilsonville (and soon Forest Grove) support us. I send a challenge out to Northwest fliers everywhere. Get in and talk with your City Council leaders and Fire Marshalls. Lets turn the Pacific Northwest into the "Free Flying Zone" of America. We together can take flying model rockets from the "Barely Any Place to fly" to "Many Places and Any Time."?For you, for the scouts, for the future rocketeers, for the future engineers, for the future scientists, for so many reasons. Let's knock down those walls together. Take care all. I must send a very big thank you to Tim Ryerse for the rocket box and all the OROC information at the launch. You have helped the club in so many ways, and we truly appreciate the hard efforts. Regarding the rocket box, the hug by the winner is something I will remember forever. Well done. Very well done. I owe you a beer. Wanna be a board member, I've got an opening for promotions director. Steve Tarr has done a great job and has been creating a lot of promotions material for the science event and beyond. I'm thinking the OROC complete promotion material, events calenders with local media outlets, fliers, hobby store material, etc. If you're interested, I'm serious. Cheers, Robert From andrewm at hawkfeather.com Sat Feb 14 19:44:34 2009 From: andrewm at hawkfeather.com (Andrew MacMillen) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:44:34 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] [WAC-Members] Tripoli - Puget Sound (41) Elections In-Reply-To: <4991128B.3040401@hawkfeather.com> References: <000301c8773a$48a23e60$0200a8c0@AntecP180> <4991128B.3040401@hawkfeather.com> Message-ID: <49978FA2.2090700@hawkfeather.com> And the winners for '09 are... drum roll please... Prefect: Brad Wright Secretary: Denny Smith Congratulations, Andrew. Andrew MacMillen wrote: > Greetings all! > > The candidates for Prefect and Prefecture Secretary for TRAPS 2009 are > as follows: > > Prefect: > Kent Newman > Brad Wright > > Secretary: > Denny Smith > Brad Wright > > With the short list of candidates for each position, if Brad Wright > should win the election for Prefect, he will automatically be dropped as > a secretary candidate and Denny Smith will win as the sole candidate. > > Please forward your votes to me @ andrew at hawkfeather.com by Sat 2/14 and > be sure to include your TRA membership number with your vote. No > membership number - no vote. > > Thanx, > Andrew. From keithp at keithp.com Sat Feb 14 20:26:47 2009 From: keithp at keithp.com (Keith Packard) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:26:47 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Launch report, Memorial Park, February 14, 2009 Message-ID: <1234672007.11303.300.camel@aiko.keithp.com> Thanks again to Robert Krausert and Tim Ryerse for bringing equipment and helping setup and run this launch. Last months troubles with Copperhead igniters was resolved by using a 12V lead-acid battery to power the launch controller. The usual statistics: Launches: 60 Successful flights: 55 Flyers: 18 Most flights: John Lyngdal and Keith Packard (7) Rockets: 41 Most flights: 6 (Red Phoenix, by Mike Ward) Biggest motor: F39-5 (Sprint II by Bob Welsh) I've got a complete flight log if anyone needs more details. We located the flight line in about the same position as in January, and with light winds, we lost no rockets to the trees. Most flights ended on the ball field, with a couple beyond the trees. Robert Krausert had one flight that landed beyond a swamp; I didn't hear if he managed to collect the rocket, but it was on the ground last we knew. A big thanks to Tim Ryerse this month -- Tim bought a flight box and filled it with goodies. He handed out raffle tickets to all of the junior fliers and called out the winning number about mid-way through the afternoon. The winner wore a huge grin and looked pleased to be taking home his very own kit. Tim's wife also sent him along with a couple dozen cupcakes decorated for Valentine's day. I snagged a couple and enjoyed them immensely. Thanks much for the treats! I hope her day was as much fun as ours was :-) We started out the afternoon on an exciting note -- Robert's first E9 flight went wild when the CD we were using as a blast deflector welded itself to the bottom of the motor and went along with the rocket for a ride. After gyrating a short distance off the ground, it headed for the spectators, shook the CD free and finally spent itself in the grass. Until this point, we have had no trouble with the CDs; they're non-conductive and easily replaceable. I think we need to use some clothespins to hold the rockets away from the CDs to avoid this in the future. Robert has been printing out custom flight cards for these launches, and (as the data recorder), I have to say that his format is far better than the NAR standard flight card format. Having a place to mark down the flight status means we get some idea of how many problems we're having and can work to fix those that are in our control. The weather this month was also better; I felt warm the whole afternoon, and by the end of the event we were looking at quite a bit of blue overhead. Let's hope next month is even warmer! Successes: PA system/launch control setup. Even more tables Tim's Pop-up, as it looked like it might sprinkle No treed rockets! Keith's new controller 12V lead-acid battery (portable jump-start system) Problems: Not enough custom flight cards CD used as a blast shield Keith's children fear the cold -- keith.packard at intel.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Robert From stefan_jones at comcast.net Sat Feb 14 22:14:57 2009 From: stefan_jones at comcast.net (stefan_jones at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 06:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [RocketsNW] [OROC Members] Krausert; Launch Report - February 2009 In-Reply-To: <001b01c98f1e$6b3e36c0$6901a8c0@LaptopKrausert> Message-ID: <933368380.200451234678497844.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I was hoping to make it down there, but I am on a roll in getting rid of a lot clutter. I sold piles of old books and sent an old computer to a relative. With these things out of the way I can start thinking about building some of the rockets I bought over the holidays. Having a low-power field nearby is a wonderful deal. Next time for sure! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Krausert" To: rockets at rocketsnw.com, members at oregonrocketry.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 7:35:14 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [OROC Members] Krausert; Launch Report - February 2009 What a great day for flying some rockets. Today was the Packard Memorial Park Launch in Wilsonville. Arrived on site at 11:00am and began hauling GSE out into the field. Tom Ryerse arrived moments after and helped with the setup. Keith and friend arrived and then soon Mike. It was ready, and it was only 11:30. I of course needed to fly one to make certain the GSE was working. Estes Eliminator on a E9-8. Now before I continue I must declare that we use CD's as blast deflectors. Old AOL mail freebies and Britney Speers CDs work best. Racked and ready, I launched my rocket. Only to see it enter space at 30 feet over our heads spinning in all directions. Eventually going straight, for a cheap shot at Keith. The blast deflector had fused to the aft of the rocket and made for an interesting journey. My second flight was to get this rocket vertical. Loaded again with a E9-8, but this time I used a stopper so the motor would not rest on the blast deflector. Great flight deep into the clouds. It landed in a marsh area with no trails and park rules not to enter. This rocket landed between three fir trees, missing them all. 20 feet in any direction, and the rocket eating trees would have won. I recovered after the event by driving to the North park and getting easy access. And no I did not trample, I left the plants in peace. Rest of my time was spent doing LCO and taking pictures. Thanks Tim and John for breaks. Todays launch we had two of the federal NAR Board members, John Lyngdal and George Rachor, and NAR Section 555 President Steve Tarr. Also many other friends attending, Mike, Bob, Tim, Kim, and many more. Thank you all for your friendship and for attending. Special thanks to Keith for again hosting a great event. We at OregonRocketry are proud of the in-roads you've made to local model launches. What a great time. Now, I must talk about a new event today. Tim Ryerse had an idea. He wondered how having an actual rocketry box could help the kids. Lets hold a drawing at these events. During the last meeting we discussed trying at this launch. Tim got a small tackle box from Home Depot and filled it with repair gear, extra rocket parts, a controller, kit for a small pad etc. Topped off with a black OROC bumper sticker on the face of the box. And a letter and application to join OROC. During the launch today, I handed out raffle tickets to the kids. At 2pm we held the drawing. Riley won the box, congratulations. I knew that this made a huge impact when the winner, Riley, gave Tim a hug in thanks and gratitude. During the day, I never heard a negative comment. In fact I heard over and over how we need to get the word out, promote these events, and how we're making rocketry whole again. Police arrived twice today, never once stopping or questioning us. And yes, they drove slow enough to catch a few flights. We are working to promote on the web sie, plus many others are getting the word out to local scout and hobby shops. If Beaverton is so against us to have rocketry, maybe we shouldn't pay patronage in their town for meetings. We support them, and thus far Wilsonville (and soon Forest Grove) support us. I send a challenge out to Northwest fliers everywhere. Get in and talk with your City Council leaders and Fire Marshalls. Lets turn the Pacific Northwest into the "Free Flying Zone" of America. We together can take flying model rockets from the "Barely Any Place to fly" to "Many Places and Any Time." For you, for the scouts, for the future rocketeers, for the future engineers, for the future scientists, for so many reasons. Let's knock down those walls together. Take care all. I must send a very big thank you to Tim Ryerse for the rocket box and all the OROC information at the launch. You have helped the club in so many ways, and we truly appreciate the hard efforts. Regarding the rocket box, the hug by the winner is something I will remember forever. Well done. Very well done. I owe you a beer. Wanna be a board member, I've got an opening for promotions director. Steve Tarr has done a great job and has been creating a lot of promotions material for the science event and beyond. I'm thinking the OROC complete promotion material, events calenders with local media outlets, fliers, hobby store material, etc. If you're interested, I'm serious. Cheers, Robert _______________________________________________ Members mailing list Members at oregonrocketry.org http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/members -------------- next part -------------- I was hoping to make it down there, but I am on a roll in getting rid of a lot clutter. I sold piles of old books and sent an old computer to a relative. With these things out of the way I can start thinking about building some of the rockets I bought over the holidays. Having a low-power field nearby is a wonderful deal. Next time for sure! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Krausert" To: rockets at rocketsnw.com, members at oregonrocketry.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 7:35:14 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [OROC Members] Krausert; Launch Report - February 2009 What a great day for flying some rockets. Today was the Packard Memorial Park Launch in Wilsonville. Arrived on site at 11:00am and began hauling GSE out into the field. Tom Ryerse arrived moments after and helped with the setup. Keith and friend arrived and then soon Mike. It was ready, and it was only 11:30. I of course needed to fly one to make certain the GSE was working. Estes Eliminator on a E9-8. Now before I continue I must declare that we use CD's as blast deflectors. Old AOL mail freebies and Britney Speers CDs work best. Racked and ready, I launched my rocket. Only to see it enter space at 30 feet over our heads spinning in all directions. Eventually going straight, for a cheap shot at Keith. The blast deflector had fused to the aft of the rocket and made for an interesting journey. My second flight was to get this rocket vertical. Loaded again with a E9-8, but this time I used a stopper so the motor would not rest on the blast deflector. Great flight deep into the clouds. It landed in a marsh area with no trails and park rules not to enter. This rocket landed between three fir trees, missing them all. 20 feet in any direction, and the rocket eating trees would have won. I recovered after the event by driving to the North park and getting easy access. And no I did not trample, I left the plants in peace. Rest of my time was spent doing LCO and taking pictures. Thanks Tim and John for breaks. Todays launch we had? two of the federal NAR Board members, John Lyngdal and George Rachor, and NAR Section 555 President Steve Tarr. Also many other friends attending, Mike, Bob, Tim, Kim, and many more. Thank you all for your friendship and for attending. Special thanks to Keith for again hosting a great event. We at OregonRocketry are proud of the in-roads you've made to local model launches. What a great time. Now, I must talk about a new event today. Tim Ryerse had an idea. He wondered how having an actual rocketry box could help the kids. Lets hold a drawing at these events. During the last meeting we discussed trying at this launch. Tim got a small tackle box from Home Depot and filled it with repair gear, extra rocket parts, a controller, kit for a small pad etc. Topped off with a black OROC bumper sticker on the face of the box. And a letter and application to join OROC. During the launch today, I handed out raffle tickets to the kids. At 2pm we held the drawing. Riley won the box, congratulations. I knew that this made a huge impact when the winner, Riley, gave Tim a hug in thanks and gratitude. During the day, I never heard a negative comment. In fact I heard over and over how we need to get the word out, promote these events, and how we're making rocketry whole again. Police arrived twice today, never once stopping or questioning us. And yes, they drove slow enough to catch a few flights. We are working to promote on the web sie, plus many others are getting the word out to local scout and hobby shops. If Beaverton is so against us to have rocketry, maybe we shouldn't pay patronage in their town for meetings. We support them, and thus far Wilsonville (and soon Forest Grove) support us. I send a challenge out to Northwest fliers everywhere. Get in and talk with your City Council leaders and Fire Marshalls. Lets turn the Pacific Northwest into the "Free Flying Zone" of America. We together can take flying model rockets from the "Barely Any Place to fly" to "Many Places and Any Time."?For you, for the scouts, for the future rocketeers, for the future engineers, for the future scientists, for so many reasons. Let's knock down those walls together. Take care all. I must send a very big thank you to Tim Ryerse for the rocket box and all the OROC information at the launch. You have helped the club in so many ways, and we truly appreciate the hard efforts. Regarding the rocket box, the hug by the winner is something I will remember forever. Well done. Very well done. I owe you a beer. Wanna be a board member, I've got an opening for promotions director. Steve Tarr has done a great job and has been creating a lot of promotions material for the science event and beyond. I'm thinking the OROC complete promotion material, events calenders with local media outlets, fliers, hobby store material, etc. If you're interested, I'm serious. Cheers, Robert _______________________________________________ Members mailing list Members at oregonrocketry.org http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/members From hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net Sun Feb 15 10:01:05 2009 From: hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net (Hammer) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 10:01:05 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Message-ID: <49985861.6020204@earthlink.net> Due to conflicting schedules, the Thawed Out Thunder launch is being rescheduled this month from the 15th to the 22nd of February. Robert ------------------------------------------------------------- You are cordially invited to the Thawed Out Thunder rocket launch, hosted by no one in particular, which will be held at 60 Acres Park in Redmond, Washington. Launch operations will commence on Sunday, 22 February 2009 at 10:00AM and conclude around 2:00PM or later weather permitting. All rockets from 1/4A to (FAR101) G power will be welcome as long as you can land within the confines of the park and not fly higher than 2700 feet. Spot landings are encouraged 60 Acres Park is located in the very beautiful, scenic, and sunny metropolis of Redmond, Washington and is very easy to find. If you need directions to the launch site please enter this address below into Google Earth or other mapping website or software. 15200 NE 116th Street, Remond, WA 98052. The park is split in half by NE 116th street. Launch operations will be conducted on the north field with recovery operations being conducted on both the north and south fields. Parking lots are available for parking your vehicle at both fields, but motorized vehicles are not allowed on to either field. For more info you can visit the 60 Acres Park website at http://www.60acres.org/ . Cameras for viewing both north and south fields should be available for virtual spectators. Flying safely is critical to our continued access to the field. Please refrain from landsharking, cruisemissling, lawndarting, and coresampling over the heads of spectators, cars, dogs, dog-walkers, and r/c airplane fliers. Rockets will need to talk to their owners about bringing their own GSE to the launch site as the non-existent launch host has none to provide. If there any newcomers to the hobby please tell your owner to present you to any seasoned rocketeer to verify your stability before flight. Due to the continued global cooling since 1998 morning and afternoon temperatures are expected to be below normal. Prepping rockets is no fun in the cold so if you plan to attend please remember to dress warmly with hats, coats, and gloves. The fields at 60 Acres can get wet and muddy so don?t forget warm, waterproof footwear. When you leave the launch site please be sure to take all of your belongings and trash. If you leave anything, please be sure it's something we'd like to have. Even though there are garbage containers on the field, they don't get emptied on a regular basis. See you at the launch! From rocketsrfun at msn.com Sun Feb 15 12:41:27 2009 From: rocketsrfun at msn.com (Don Harris) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:41:27 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] New email address Message-ID: Due to my wife and I getting BlackBerry's I have unsubscribed from the rocketry web page donbrendarott at msn.com and my new email address is: rocketsrfun at msn.com . Since we are both using the primary email address she is getting bombarded with rocketry post as well as her corporate email. So one of them had to go. The donbrendarott at msn.com is still valid but only for business, family and friends not rocketry. Don Harris -------------- next part -------------- Due to my wife and I getting BlackBerry's I have unsubscribed from the rocketry web page? mailto:donbrendarott at msn.com donbrendarott at msn.com and my new?email address is: mailto:rocketsrfun at msn.com rocketsrfun at msn.com . Since we are both using the primary email address she is getting bombarded with rocketry post as well as her corporate email. So one of them had to go. The mailto:donbrendarott at msn.com donbrendarott at msn.com is still valid but only for business, family and friends not rocketry. ? Don Harris From hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net Sun Feb 15 19:58:44 2009 From: hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net (Hammer) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:58:44 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Lexan fins flexing in the breeze Message-ID: <4998E474.2090609@earthlink.net> I don't think these are video artifacts causing the flexing of the Lexan fins. http://www.payloadbay.com/video-7959.html Robert From john_lyngdal at verizon.net Sun Feb 15 21:20:39 2009 From: john_lyngdal at verizon.net (John Lyngdal) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:20:39 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Launch report, Memorial Park, February 14, 2009 In-Reply-To: <1234672007.11303.300.camel@aiko.keithp.com> References: <1234672007.11303.300.camel@aiko.keithp.com> Message-ID: <002101c98ff6$4ecbddc0$ec639940$@net> I had a great time at the launch. Many thanks for making the launch site arrangements and hosting a fun event. Might have to bring something bigger to fly next time. John -----Original Message----- From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On Behalf Of Keith Packard Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:27 PM To: rockets; members; rockets at keithp.com; Robert Krausert Subject: [RocketsNW] Launch report, Memorial Park, February 14, 2009 Thanks again to Robert Krausert and Tim Ryerse for bringing equipment and helping setup and run this launch. Last months troubles with Copperhead igniters was resolved by using a 12V lead-acid battery to power the launch controller. The usual statistics: Launches: 60 Successful flights: 55 Flyers: 18 Most flights: John Lyngdal and Keith Packard (7) Rockets: 41 Most flights: 6 (Red Phoenix, by Mike Ward) Biggest motor: F39-5 (Sprint II by Bob Welsh) I've got a complete flight log if anyone needs more details. We located the flight line in about the same position as in January, and with light winds, we lost no rockets to the trees. Most flights ended on the ball field, with a couple beyond the trees. Robert Krausert had one flight that landed beyond a swamp; I didn't hear if he managed to collect the rocket, but it was on the ground last we knew. A big thanks to Tim Ryerse this month -- Tim bought a flight box and filled it with goodies. He handed out raffle tickets to all of the junior fliers and called out the winning number about mid-way through the afternoon. The winner wore a huge grin and looked pleased to be taking home his very own kit. Tim's wife also sent him along with a couple dozen cupcakes decorated for Valentine's day. I snagged a couple and enjoyed them immensely. Thanks much for the treats! I hope her day was as much fun as ours was :-) We started out the afternoon on an exciting note -- Robert's first E9 flight went wild when the CD we were using as a blast deflector welded itself to the bottom of the motor and went along with the rocket for a ride. After gyrating a short distance off the ground, it headed for the spectators, shook the CD free and finally spent itself in the grass. Until this point, we have had no trouble with the CDs; they're non-conductive and easily replaceable. I think we need to use some clothespins to hold the rockets away from the CDs to avoid this in the future. Robert has been printing out custom flight cards for these launches, and (as the data recorder), I have to say that his format is far better than the NAR standard flight card format. Having a place to mark down the flight status means we get some idea of how many problems we're having and can work to fix those that are in our control. The weather this month was also better; I felt warm the whole afternoon, and by the end of the event we were looking at quite a bit of blue overhead. Let's hope next month is even warmer! Successes: PA system/launch control setup. Even more tables Tim's Pop-up, as it looked like it might sprinkle No treed rockets! Keith's new controller 12V lead-acid battery (portable jump-start system) Problems: Not enough custom flight cards CD used as a blast shield Keith's children fear the cold -- keith.packard at intel.com From kent.newman at comcast.net Tue Feb 17 07:11:09 2009 From: kent.newman at comcast.net (Kent Newman) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 07:11:09 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] FW: [TRA-Prefects] FAA Waiver Information - Class 3 Rocket Projects Message-ID: <45D9AFE526794AF3BBE9CE66F7E6FD4C@AntecP180> Greetings, all, This note from Ken Good, Tripoli President, pertains only to those projects using a motor or combined motors equaling "P" and above. If the project is complex, e.g., a two-stage that would be at or near the 40,960 ns Class 2 threshold, it would be prudent to follow the Class 3 guidelines as well. For the vast majority of high power fliers, the Class 3 documentation will not be a concern. Generally speaking, traditional Washington Aerospace launch events will fall under Class 2 guidelines with little change to obtaining altitude waivers and/or permission to fly. Kent Newman WAC President _____ From: Ken Good [mailto:ken.good at tripoli.org] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:16 PM To: TRA Prefects List Subject: [TRA-Prefects] FAA Waiver Information - Class 3 Rocket Projects To all TRA Prefects: Due to the recent extensive rules change put in place by the FAA, there has been confusion and concern among flyers over the new three-class approach to the requirements for FAA clearance. Specific focus of concern is the requirements for Class 3 flights, which appear to be extremely detailed and onerous. Refer to the new rule here: http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2008/pdf/E8-28703.pdf While the majority of TRA flights fall into Class 1 and 2 categories, and as such are less difficult to satisfy FAA requirements, there have been a significant, and growing number of projects that will fall into the new Class 3 category. The TRA Board of Directors, Dick Embry and VP Pat Gordzelik, have established a dialog with FAA contacts to try to obtain some clarity to Class 3 requirements, and to agree to a streamlined approval process for TRA flights that will fall into this category. To that end, at the Board's request, former TRA President and noted rocket flight simulation expewrt Chuck Rogers has agreed to assist TRA members with Class 3 projects in advance of obtaining FAA clearance. The plan is for flyers to submit flight data listed below directly to Chuck (copy Dick Embry also), and he will perform comparative analyses based both on the FAA requirements and on a simplified process he has developed. Our hope is to verify that a streamlined process can satisfy FAA requirements. Also, in general Chuck is willing to assist our flyers' efforts with Class 3 projects. The information Chuck requires is noted in his message to Dick Embry, appended below. If you have any questions about this information, please contact Chuck directly. Please communicate this with your members, obviously especially with those you know are working on Class 3 projects. Ken Good TRA President ************************** Please forward to the Tripoli Board of Directors, and to interested Tripoli members, that I need the following data for the FAA Class 3 Advanced High Power Rocket 6-DOF 3-sigma Dispersion Analysis: All of the information included on the Tripoli 25K ft Flight Approval Form, plus; 1) For single-stage, single motor rockets, with a single set of fins: A RASAero ALX1 rocket file for the rocket. A rasp.eng motor data file, containing thrust curve data, propellant weight, total weight, and length and diameter data for the motor. 2) For all other rockets (two-stage, clusters, multiple sets of fins): A RockSim input file for the rocket. Airfoil geometry data for airfoils not supported by RockSim. See pages 14-18 of the RASAero Users Manual. A rasp.eng or RockSim motor data file, containing thrust curve data, propellant weight, total weight, and length and diameter data for the motor or motors. Chuck Rogers CRogers168 at aol.com Dick Embry JetViper at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- [n!a at t]FAA Waiver Information - Class 3 Rocket Projects Greetings, all, ? This note from Ken Good, Tripoli President, pertains only to those projects using a motor or combined motors equaling ???P??? and above. If the project is complex, e.g., a two-stage that would be at or near the 40,960 ns Class 2 threshold, it would be prudent to follow the Class 3 guidelines as well. ? For the vast majority of high power fliers, the Class 3 documentation will not be a concern. ?Generally speaking, traditional Washington Aerospace launch events will fall under Class 2 guidelines with little change to obtaining altitude waivers and/or permission to fly. ? Kent Newman WAC President From: Ken Good [mailto:ken.good at tripoli.org] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:16 PM To: TRA Prefects List Subject: [TRA-Prefects] FAA Waiver Information - Class 3 Rocket Projects ? To all TRA Prefects: Due to the recent extensive rules change put in place by the FAA, there has been confusion and concern among flyers over the new three-class approach to the requirements for FAA clearance. Specific focus of concern is the requirements for Class 3 flights, which appear to be extremely detailed and onerous. Refer to the new rule here:? http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2008/pdf/E8-28703.pdf http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2008/pdf/E8-28703.pdf While the majority of TRA flights fall into Class 1 and 2 categories, and as such are less difficult to satisfy FAA requirements, there have been a significant, and growing number of projects that will fall into the new Class 3 category. The TRA Board of Directors, Dick Embry and VP Pat Gordzelik, have established a dialog with FAA contacts to try to obtain some clarity to Class 3 requirements, and to agree to a streamlined approval process for TRA flights that will fall into this category.? To that end, at the Board's request, former TRA President and noted rocket flight simulation expewrt Chuck Rogers has agreed to assist TRA members with Class 3 projects in advance of obtaining FAA clearance.? The plan is for flyers to submit flight data listed below directly to Chuck (copy Dick Embry also), and he will perform comparative analyses based both on the FAA requirements and on a simplified process he has developed. Our hope is to verify that a streamlined process can satisfy FAA requirements.? Also, in general Chuck is willing to assist our flyers' efforts with Class 3 projects. The information Chuck requires is noted in his message to Dick Embry, appended below.? If you have any questions about this information, please contact Chuck directly. Please communicate this with your members, obviously especially with those you know are working on Class 3 projects.??????????? Ken Good TRA President ************************** Please forward to the Tripoli Board of Directors, and to interested Tripoli members, that I need the following data for the FAA Class 3 Advanced High Power Rocket 6-DOF 3-sigma Dispersion Analysis: All of the information included on the Tripoli 25K ft Flight Approval Form, plus; 1) For single-stage, single motor rockets, with a single set of fins: ???? A RASAero ALX1 rocket file for the rocket. ???? A rasp.eng motor data file, containing thrust curve data, propellant weight, total weight, and length and diameter data for the motor. 2) For all other rockets (two-stage, clusters, multiple sets of fins): ???? A RockSim input file for the rocket. ???? Airfoil geometry data for airfoils not supported by RockSim.? See pages 14-18 of the RASAero Users Manual. ???? A rasp.eng or RockSim motor data file, containing thrust curve data, propellant weight, total weight, and length and diameter data for the motor or motors. Chuck Rogers CRogers168 at aol.com Dick Embry JetViper at aol.com From stefan_jones at comcast.net Thu Feb 19 16:54:37 2009 From: stefan_jones at comcast.net (stefan_jones at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:54:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [RocketsNW] Request for "NAR Digital Archives" In-Reply-To: <71296065.303671235091228386.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <955385912.303981235091277002.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> See note below. I'm too much of a newcomer to know what OREO and OROC had in the way of newsletters. -----Original Message----- From: astron_art To: OldRockets at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 4:44 pm Subject: [OldRockets] Re: Group Stuff Hi Stefan, This is Art Nestor. My daughter lives in the Willamette Valley and my wife and I were there in early December. The fog was incredible! We stopped to check on the carousel that volunteers are rebuilding in Albany. Would have loved to got together with your clubs though. Say, I need material on Oregon Rocketry for the NAR Digital Archives. Much of the time pictures downloaded from websites don't come out in a high enough resolution. Can you or someone else send me some photos, PDF files of Section newsletters and Section histories on Oregon NAR Sections? Would greatly appreciate it! Thanks, Art -------------- next part -------------- See note below. I'm too much of a newcomer to know what OREO and OROC had in the way of newsletters. -----Original Message----- From: astron_art To: OldRockets at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 4:44 pm Subject: [OldRockets] Re: Group Stuff Hi Stefan, This is Art Nestor. My daughter lives in the Willamette Valley and my wife and I were there in early December. The fog was incredible! We stopped to check on the carousel that volunteers are rebuilding in Albany. Would have loved to got together with your clubs though. Say, I need material on Oregon Rocketry for the NAR Digital Archives. Much of the time pictures downloaded from websites don't come out in a high enough resolution. Can you or someone else send me some photos, PDF files of Section newsletters and Section histories on Oregon NAR Sections? Would greatly appreciate it! Thanks, Art From lawndart.robert at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 17:21:23 2009 From: lawndart.robert at gmail.com (Robert Krausert) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:21:23 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Request for "NAR Digital Archives" References: <955385912.303981235091277002.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <002a01c992f9$8c1d9230$6901a8c0@LaptopKrausert> Thanks Stefen. I'll send Art and email with Mr. Tarr OREO 555 included. Cheers, Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "rockets" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:54 PM Subject: [RocketsNW] Request for "NAR Digital Archives" > > > > See note below. I'm too much of a newcomer to know what OREO and OROC had > in the way of newsletters. > > -----Original Message----- > From: astron_art > To: OldRockets at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 4:44 pm > Subject: [OldRockets] Re: Group Stuff > > > > > > Hi Stefan, > This is Art Nestor. My daughter lives in the Willamette Valley and my > wife and I were there in early December. The fog was incredible! We > stopped to check on the carousel that volunteers are rebuilding in > Albany. Would have loved to got together with your clubs though. > > Say, I need material on Oregon Rocketry for the NAR Digital Archives. > Much of the time pictures downloaded from websites don't come out in > a high enough resolution. Can you or someone else send me some > photos, PDF files of Section newsletters and Section histories on > Oregon NAR Sections? > > Would greatly appreciate it! > Thanks, > Art > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > From george at rachors.com Thu Feb 19 18:13:38 2009 From: george at rachors.com (George L. Rachor Jr.) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:13:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [RocketsNW] Request for "NAR Digital Archives" In-Reply-To: <002a01c992f9$8c1d9230$6901a8c0@LaptopKrausert> References: <955385912.303981235091277002.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <002a01c992f9$8c1d9230$6901a8c0@LaptopKrausert> Message-ID: <20090219181044.J73805@racsys.rachors.com> Art, I'm not sure how historical some of this is but there is a reference to our mass mosquito launch a few years ago... http://rachors.com/rocket.html Your welcome to any and all images there... fyi.... My wife grew up in Albany... We make regular trips down there. George Rachor Proud member of OREO 555. ========================================================= George L. Rachor Jr. george at rachors.com Hillsboro, Oregon http://rachors.com United States of America Amateur Radio : KD7DCX On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, Robert Krausert wrote: > Thanks Stefen. I'll send Art and email with Mr. Tarr OREO 555 included. > > Cheers, > Robert > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "rockets" > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:54 PM > Subject: [RocketsNW] Request for "NAR Digital Archives" > > >> >> >> >> See note below. I'm too much of a newcomer to know what OREO and OROC had >> in the way of newsletters. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: astron_art >> To: OldRockets at yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 4:44 pm >> Subject: [OldRockets] Re: Group Stuff >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Stefan, >> This is Art Nestor. My daughter lives in the Willamette Valley and my >> wife and I were there in early December. The fog was incredible! We >> stopped to check on the carousel that volunteers are rebuilding in >> Albany. Would have loved to got together with your clubs though. >> >> Say, I need material on Oregon Rocketry for the NAR Digital Archives. >> Much of the time pictures downloaded from websites don't come out in >> a high enough resolution. Can you or someone else send me some >> photos, PDF files of Section newsletters and Section histories on >> Oregon NAR Sections? >> >> Would greatly appreciate it! >> Thanks, >> Art >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Rockets mailing list >> Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> > > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > From hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net Fri Feb 20 07:41:16 2009 From: hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net (Hammer) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:41:16 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder launch Message-ID: <499ECF1C.6010003@earthlink.net> Since it looks like it is going to rain Sunday the launch has been moved to Saturday, 21FEB09, at 60 Acres Park from 10am-2pm. Robert From dmrandall at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 08:07:31 2009 From: dmrandall at gmail.com (Dave Randall) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:07:31 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder launch In-Reply-To: <499ECF1C.6010003@earthlink.net> References: <499ECF1C.6010003@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6bc920e40902200807tdffb28dlb70ebaab3ab3eaed@mail.gmail.com> Great! Much better to have a Thawed Out Thunder launch than a Drenched Out Thunder launch! I'll be there, and I'll have my GSE set up with a two or three model launch pads. I will have my 12V launcher, so we can light Aerotech motors too. Probably fly my Patriot Payloader with the camera and try for more video. We'll set up on the North field again. This time, we'll move the pads a bit further away from the rocket eating trees. We'll be launching further in-field, rather than close to the parking lot as before. Dave On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Hammer wrote: > Since it looks like it is going to rain Sunday the launch has been moved > to Saturday, 21FEB09, at 60 Acres Park from 10am-2pm. > > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > -- - Dave From sb at berfield.com Fri Feb 20 14:02:20 2009 From: sb at berfield.com (Scott Berfield) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:02:20 +0000 Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder launch Message-ID: Let me know if you want me to bring my launch setup. I have a homebrew pad with 2 rods and a 12volt supply. otherwise I'll just bring a couple of rockets I have and mooch off yours. Don't think I have any 29mm stuff in the bin, so will likely just bring the Fatboy, Red Max, and one or two other little guys with standard Estes motors. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Randall [mailto:dmrandall at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 08:07 AM To: rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder launch Great! Much better to have a Thawed Out Thunder launch than aDrenched Out Thunder launch!I'll be there, and I'll have my GSE set up with a two or three modellaunch pads. I will have my 12V launcher, so we can light Aerotechmotors too. Probably fly my Patriot Payloader with the camera and tryfor more video.We'll set up on the North field again. This time, we'll move the padsa bit further away from the rocket eating trees. We'll be launchingfurther in-field, rather than close to the parking lot as before.DaveOn Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Hammer wrote:> Since it looks like it is going to rain Sunday the launch has been moved> to Saturday, 21FEB09, at 60 Acres Park from 10am-2pm.>> Robert> _______________________________________________> Rockets mailing list> Rockets at rocketsnw.com> http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets>>-- - Dave_______________________________________________Rockets mailing listRockets at rocketsnw.comhttp://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets -------------- next part -------------- Let me know if you want me to bring my launch setup. I have a homebrew pad with 2 rods and a 12volt supply. otherwise I'll just bring a couple of rockets I have and mooch off yours. Don't think I have any 29mm stuff in the bin, so will likely just bring the Fatboy, Red Max, and one or two other little guys with standard Estes motors. ? -----Original Message----- From: Dave Randall [mailto:dmrandall at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 08:07 AM To: rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder launch Great! Much better to have a Thawed Out Thunder launch than a Drenched Out Thunder launch! I'll be there, and I'll have my GSE set up with a two or three model launch pads. I will have my 12V launcher, so we can light Aerotech motors too. Probably fly my Patriot Payloader with the camera and try for more video. We'll set up on the North field again. This time, we'll move the pads a bit further away from the rocket eating trees. We'll be launching further in-field, rather than close to the parking lot as before. Dave On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Hammer wrote: > Since it looks like it is going to rain Sunday the launch has been moved > to Saturday, 21FEB09, at 60 Acres Park from 10am-2pm. > > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > -- - Dave _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets From winningstad at comcast.net Fri Feb 20 14:31:14 2009 From: winningstad at comcast.net (Dennis Winningstad) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:31:14 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Ping - Ping In-Reply-To: <4987DAA3.1000405@hawkfeather.com> References: <35C70C9C24874F668677F5C3ECA76460@AntecP180> <4987DAA3.1000405@hawkfeather.com> Message-ID: Pinging Portland Paul B... Dennis S Winningstad 503-781-3529 -----Original Message----- From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On Behalf Of Andrew MacMillen Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:48 PM To: members at washingtonaerospace.org; rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] [WAC-Members] Tripoli - Puget Sound (41) - Call for Prefecture Candidates 2nd year reminder Kent: it's andrewm at hawkfeather.com ;) And can somebody post this to OROC as well / just in case? Thanx, Andrew. Kent Newman wrote: > Greetings all! > > > > It is time to hold elections for Prefect and Secretary of Tripoli - Puget > Sound (41). > > > > Requirements and responsibilities are as follows: > > > > Prefect: > > > > 1. Must be at least 21 years old. > > > > 2. Must be a responsible person having been a member of Tripoli for at > > least 1 year. > > > > 3. Must be certified Level 2. > > > > 4. Will oversee the Prefecture's compliance with all TRA rules and > > regulations. > > > > 5. Will certify TRA members to Level 1 and Level 2. > > > > 6. Will administer Level 2 written tests as required. > > > > 7. Will be responsible for keeping TRA apprised of local organization > > activities as necessary. > > > > 8. Will be available to attend the majority of local launches. > > > > Secretary: > > > > 1. Must be a responsible person having been a member of Tripoli for at > > least 1 year. > > > > 2. Will assist the Prefect in carrying out the business of the > > Prefecture. > > > > 3. Will conduct an annual Prefect election. > > > > Please forward names meeting the above requirements for the appropriate > position to Andrew MacMillen @ andrew at hawkfeather.com. > > > > Nominations will close Saturday, February 7th, with the election following > immediately. > > > > Regards, > > > > Kent Newman > > - Prefect > > > > Brad Wright > > - Secretary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > members mailing list > members at washingtonaerospace.org > http://washingtonaerospace.org/mailman/listinfo/members_washingtonaerospace. org _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets From gbhchrist at verizon.net Fri Feb 20 16:59:27 2009 From: gbhchrist at verizon.net (George Christ) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:59:27 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder launch In-Reply-To: <6bc920e40902200807tdffb28dlb70ebaab3ab3eaed@mail.gmail.com> References: <499ECF1C.6010003@earthlink.net> <6bc920e40902200807tdffb28dlb70ebaab3ab3eaed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sounds like Robert and Dave have a well thawed out plan... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Randall" To: Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder launch > Great! Much better to have a Thawed Out Thunder launch than a > Drenched Out Thunder launch! > > I'll be there, and I'll have my GSE set up with a two or three model > launch pads. I will have my 12V launcher, so we can light Aerotech > motors too. Probably fly my Patriot Payloader with the camera and try > for more video. > > We'll set up on the North field again. This time, we'll move the pads > a bit further away from the rocket eating trees. We'll be launching > further in-field, rather than close to the parking lot as before. > > Dave > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Hammer > wrote: >> Since it looks like it is going to rain Sunday the launch has been moved >> to Saturday, 21FEB09, at 60 Acres Park from 10am-2pm. >> >> Robert >> _______________________________________________ >> Rockets mailing list >> Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> >> > > > > -- > - Dave > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > From gbhchrist at verizon.net Fri Feb 20 16:59:27 2009 From: gbhchrist at verizon.net (George Christ) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:59:27 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder launch In-Reply-To: <6bc920e40902200807tdffb28dlb70ebaab3ab3eaed@mail.gmail.com> References: <499ECF1C.6010003@earthlink.net> <6bc920e40902200807tdffb28dlb70ebaab3ab3eaed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sounds like Robert and Dave have a well thawed out plan... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Randall" To: Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder launch > Great! Much better to have a Thawed Out Thunder launch than a > Drenched Out Thunder launch! > > I'll be there, and I'll have my GSE set up with a two or three model > launch pads. I will have my 12V launcher, so we can light Aerotech > motors too. Probably fly my Patriot Payloader with the camera and try > for more video. > > We'll set up on the North field again. This time, we'll move the pads > a bit further away from the rocket eating trees. We'll be launching > further in-field, rather than close to the parking lot as before. > > Dave > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Hammer > wrote: >> Since it looks like it is going to rain Sunday the launch has been moved >> to Saturday, 21FEB09, at 60 Acres Park from 10am-2pm. >> >> Robert >> _______________________________________________ >> Rockets mailing list >> Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> >> > > > > -- > - Dave > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > From rocketsrfun at msn.com Fri Feb 20 18:10:25 2009 From: rocketsrfun at msn.com (Don Harris) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:10:25 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Project Orion Pics Message-ID: Nice photo's of the Orion Project. http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/02/progress_on_nasas_constellatio.html -------------- next part -------------- Nice photo's of the Orion Project. http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/02/progress_on_nasas_constellatio.html http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/02/progress_on_nasas_constellatio.html ? ? ? From rocketsrfun at msn.com Fri Feb 20 18:17:28 2009 From: rocketsrfun at msn.com (Don Harris) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:17:28 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Fw: Project Orion Pics Message-ID: I don't know why these web addresses repeat, but maybe this will work. Don Nice photo's of the Orion Project. http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/02/progress_on_nasas_constellatio.html > _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets -------------- next part -------------- I don't know why these web addresses repeat, but maybe this will work. ? Don ? Nice photo's of the Orion Project. http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/02/progress_on_nasas_constellatio.html http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/02/progress_on_nasas_constellatio.html ? < http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/02/progress_on_nasas_constellatio.html http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/02/progress_on_nasas_constellatio.html > _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets From rocketsrfun at msn.com Fri Feb 20 18:24:33 2009 From: rocketsrfun at msn.com (Don Harris) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:24:33 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Fw: Fw: Project Orion Pics Message-ID: Guess not. It worked when I sent it to myself. If you want to take the time, forward the message, then delete everything after (.html) send it to your email, which you should be able to open it . Should be about 138 photo's. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Harris To: Rockets NW Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:17 PM Subject: [RocketsNW] Fw: Project Orion Pics I don't know why these web addresses repeat, but maybe this will work. Don Nice photo's of the Orion Project. http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/02/progress_on_nasas_constellatio.html -------------- next part -------------- Guess not. It worked when I sent it to myself. If you want to take the time, forward the message,?then delete everything after (.html) send it to your email, which you should be able to open it . Should be about 138 photo's. ? Don ----- Original Message ----- From: mailto:rocketsrfun at msn.com Don Harris To: mailto:rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets NW Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:17 PM Subject: [RocketsNW] Fw: Project Orion Pics I don't know why these web addresses repeat, but maybe this will work. Don ? Nice photo's of the Orion Project. http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/02/progress_on_nasas_constellatio.html http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/02/progress_on_nasas_constellatio.html From dmrandall at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 15:36:06 2009 From: dmrandall at gmail.com (Dave Randall) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:36:06 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report Message-ID: <6bc920e40902211536u7a9bc5a0sac3fb3fcc4fef07e@mail.gmail.com> Thanks to the fantastic weather, launching was wonderful for Thawed Out Thunder 2009. After arriving at 10 and setting up on field, Mike and his kids showed up with a few rockets, then Scott came with a few models to fly. Brad and Red were close behind as well as Dave from PSP (all three were sans rockets however). George came a bit later with a box o'rockets as well as some other flyers and spectators. All flights were successful - no catostrophic failures (although George did pop out a motor mount). Recovery was almost always on-field with a few floating over to the road or the ditches. Scott got the "closest to the pad" landing with his snitch that drifted back and landed about 6' from the pad. I think we had about 25-30 total launches including a few others on the field that were not in our immediate group. Motors ranged from B - F. A few AP motors were flown, mostly BP though. I posted my pictures here: http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU I'm looking forward to next month's launch! -- - Dave From sb at berfield.com Sat Feb 21 18:29:53 2009 From: sb at berfield.com (Scott Berfield) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 02:29:53 +0000 Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report Message-ID: Thanks for setting this up Dave. It weas a beautiful day and a lot of fun. I have posted a few pics at http://picasaweb.google.com/sberfield -----Original Message----- From: Dave Randall [mailto:dmrandall at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 03:36 PM To: 'NW Rocketry mailing list' Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report Thanks to the fantastic weather, launching was wonderful for Thawed Out Thunder 2009. After arriving at 10 and setting up on field, Mike and his kids showed up with a few rockets, then Scott came with a few models to fly. Brad and Red were close behind as well as Dave from PSP (all three were sans rockets however). George came a bit later with a box o'rockets as well as some other flyers and spectators. All flights were successful - no catostrophic failures (although George did pop out a motor mount). Recovery was almost always on-field with a few floating over to the road or the ditches. Scott got the "closest to the pad" landing with his snitch that drifted back and landed about 6' from the pad. I think we had about 25-30 total launches including a few others on the field that were not in our immediate group. Motors ranged from B - F. A few AP motors were flown, mostly BP though. I posted my pictures here: http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU I'm looking forward to next month's launch! -- - Dave _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets -------------- next part -------------- Thanks for setting this up Dave. It weas a beautiful day an d a lot of fun. I have posted a few pics at http://picasaweb.google.com/sberfield http://picasaweb.google.com/sberfield -----Original Message----- From: Dave Randall [mailto:dmrandall at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 03:36 PM To: 'NW Rocketry mailing list' Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report Thanks to the fantastic weather, launching was wonderful for Thawed Out Thunder 2009. After arriving at 10 and setting up on field, Mike and his kids showed up with a few rockets, then Scott came with a few models to fly. Brad and Red were close behind as well as Dave from PSP (all three were sans rockets however). George came a bit later with a box o'rockets as well as some other flyers and spectators. All flights were successful - no catostrophic failures (although George did pop out a motor mount). Recovery was almost always on-field with a few floating over to the road or the ditches. Scott got the "closest to the pad" landing with his snitch that drifted back and landed about 6' from the pad. I think we had about 25-30 total launches including a few others on the field that were not in our immediate group. Motors ranged from B - F. A few AP motors were flown, mostly BP though. I posted my pictures here: http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU I'm looking forward to next month's launch! -- - Dave _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets From hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net Tue Feb 24 21:45:20 2009 From: hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net (Hammer) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:45:20 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Comet Lulin - A one time only showing for this solar system Message-ID: <49A4DAF0.3080506@earthlink.net> http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/highlights/35992534.html http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-02/24/content_10885176.htm From je_stewart at yahoo.com Wed Feb 25 07:50:07 2009 From: je_stewart at yahoo.com (James Stewart) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:50:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report In-Reply-To: <6bc920e40902211536u7a9bc5a0sac3fb3fcc4fef07e@mail.gmail.com> References: <6bc920e40902211536u7a9bc5a0sac3fb3fcc4fef07e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <324976.70111.qm@web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I wanted to go to this launch since there are really so few opportunities in the Seattle area but scheduling conflicts interfered. So, what's this about a launch next month? Has one been scheduled? Jim Stewart je_stewart at yahoo.com james_stewart at urscorp.com ________________________________ From: Dave Randall To: NW Rocketry mailing list Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:36:06 PM Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report Thanks to the fantastic weather, launching was wonderful for Thawed Out Thunder 2009. After arriving at 10 and setting up on field, Mike and his kids showed up with a few rockets, then Scott came with a few models to fly. Brad and Red were close behind as well as Dave from PSP (all three were sans rockets however). George came a bit later with a box o'rockets as well as some other flyers and spectators. All flights were successful - no catostrophic failures (although George did pop out a motor mount). Recovery was almost always on-field with a few floating over to the road or the ditches. Scott got the "closest to the pad" landing with his snitch that drifted back and landed about 6' from the pad. I think we had about 25-30 total launches including a few others on the field that were not in our immediate group. Motors ranged from B - F. A few AP motors were flown, mostly BP though. I posted my pictures here: http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU I'm looking forward to next month's launch! -- - Dave _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets -------------- next part -------------- I wanted to go to this launch since there are really so few opportunities in the Seattle area but scheduling conflicts interfered. So, what's this about a launch next month? Has one been scheduled? ? Jim Stewart je_stewart at yahoo.com james_stewart at urscorp.com From: Dave Randall To: NW Rocketry mailing list Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:36:06 PM Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report Thanks to the fantastic weather, launching was wonderful for Thawed Out Thunder 2009. After arriving at 10 and setting up on field, Mike and his kids showed up with a few rockets, then Scott came with a few models to fly.? Brad and Red were close behind as well as Dave from PSP (all three were sans rockets however).? George came a bit later with a box o'rockets as well as some other flyers and spectators. All flights were successful - no catostrophic failures (although George did pop out a motor mount).? Recovery was almost always on-field with a few floating over to the road or the ditches.? Scott got the "closest to the pad" landing with his snitch that drifted back and landed about 6' from the pad.? I think we had about 25-30 total launches including a few others on the field that were not in our immediate group.? Motors ranged from B - F.? A few AP motors were flown, mostly BP though. I posted my pictures here: http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU I'm looking forward to next month's launch! -- - Dave _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets ? From hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net Wed Feb 25 09:27:45 2009 From: hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net (Hammer) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:27:45 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report In-Reply-To: <324976.70111.qm@web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <6bc920e40902211536u7a9bc5a0sac3fb3fcc4fef07e@mail.gmail.com> <324976.70111.qm@web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49A57F91.2060200@earthlink.net> We've had three successful launches so far with Frost and Fire in December, Frozen Thunder in January, and Thawed Out Thunder for February. Dave Randall has done a great job bringing out his GSE to help make each launch a great one. There will be a launch next month on 15MAR09 from 1000-1400, but no name has been given it. Any one with suggestions? Robert James Stewart wrote: > I wanted to go to this launch since there are really so few opportunities in the Seattle area but scheduling conflicts interfered. So, what's this about a launch next month? Has one been scheduled? > > Jim Stewart > je_stewart at yahoo.com > james_stewart at urscorp.com > From: > Dave Randall > To: > NW Rocketry mailing list > Sent: > Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:36:06 PM > Subject: > [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report > Thanks to the fantastic weather, launching was wonderful for Thawed > Out Thunder 2009. > After arriving at 10 and setting up on field, Mike and his kids showed > up with a few rockets, then Scott came with a few models to fly. Brad > and Red were close behind as well as Dave from PSP (all three were > sans rockets however). George came a bit later with a box o'rockets > as well as some other flyers and spectators. > All flights were successful - no catostrophic failures (although > George did pop out a motor mount). Recovery was almost always > on-field with a few floating over to the road or the ditches. Scott > got the "closest to the pad" landing with his snitch that drifted back > and landed about 6' from the pad. I think we had about 25-30 total > launches including a few others on the field that were not in our > immediate group. Motors ranged from B - F. A few AP motors were > flown, mostly BP though. > I posted my pictures here: http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU > I'm looking forward to next month's launch! > -- > - Dave > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > From appusher at q.com Wed Feb 25 09:40:59 2009 From: appusher at q.com (Bill Munds) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:40:59 +0000 Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report In-Reply-To: <49A57F91.2060200@earthlink.net> References: <6bc920e40902211536u7a9bc5a0sac3fb3fcc4fef07e@mail.gmail.com> <324976.70111.qm@web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A57F91.2060200@earthlink.net> Message-ID: How about WET AND WINDY EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:27:45 -0800 > From: hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net > CC: rockets at rocketsnw.com > Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report > > We've had three successful launches so far with Frost and Fire in > December, Frozen Thunder in January, and Thawed Out Thunder for > February. Dave Randall has done a great job bringing out his GSE to > help make each launch a great one. > > There will be a launch next month on 15MAR09 from 1000-1400, but no name > has been given it. Any one with suggestions? > > Robert > > > James Stewart wrote: > > I wanted to go to this launch since there are really so few opportunities in the Seattle area but scheduling conflicts interfered. So, what's this about a launch next month? Has one been scheduled? > > > > Jim Stewart > > je_stewart at yahoo.com > > james_stewart at urscorp.com > > From: > > Dave Randall > > To: > > NW Rocketry mailing list > > Sent: > > Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:36:06 PM > > Subject: > > [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report > > Thanks to the fantastic weather, launching was wonderful for Thawed > > Out Thunder 2009. > > After arriving at 10 and setting up on field, Mike and his kids showed > > up with a few rockets, then Scott came with a few models to fly. Brad > > and Red were close behind as well as Dave from PSP (all three were > > sans rockets however). George came a bit later with a box o'rockets > > as well as some other flyers and spectators. > > All flights were successful - no catostrophic failures (although > > George did pop out a motor mount). Recovery was almost always > > on-field with a few floating over to the road or the ditches. Scott > > got the "closest to the pad" landing with his snitch that drifted back > > and landed about 6' from the pad. I think we had about 25-30 total > > launches including a few others on the field that were not in our > > immediate group. Motors ranged from B - F. A few AP motors were > > flown, mostly BP though. > > I posted my pictures here: http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU > > I'm looking forward to next month's launch! > > -- > > - Dave > > _______________________________________________ > > Rockets mailing list > > mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com > > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rockets mailing list > > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > -------------- next part -------------- How about??? WET AND WINDY http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=EML_WLHM_GreaterGood http://gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/i_charity.gif EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me ? > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:27:45 -0800 > From: hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net > CC: rockets at rocketsnw.com > Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report > > We've had three successful launches so far with Frost and Fire in > December, Frozen Thunder in January, and Thawed Out Thunder for > February. Dave Randall has done a great job bringing out his GSE to > help make each launch a great one. > > There will be a launch next month on 15MAR09 from 1000-1400, but no name > has been given it. Any one with suggestions? > > Robert > > > James Stewart wrote: > > I wanted to go to this launch since there are really so few opportunities in the Seattle area but scheduling conflicts interfered. So, what's this about a launch next month? Has one been scheduled? > > > > Jim Stewart > > je_stewart at yahoo.com > > james_stewart at urscorp.com > > From: > > Dave Randall > > To: > > NW Rocketry mailing list > > Sent: > > Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:36:06 PM > > Subject: > > [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report > > Thanks to the fantastic weather, launching was wonderful for Thawed > > Out Thunder 2009. > > After arriving at 10 and setting up on field, Mike and his kids showed > > up with a few rockets, then Scott came with a few models to fly. Brad > > and Red were close behind as well as Dave from PSP (all three were > > sans rockets however). George came a bit later with a box o'rockets > > as well as some other flyers and spectators. > > All flights were successful - no catostrophic failures (although > > George did pop out a motor mount). Recovery was almost always > > on-field with a few floating over to the road or the ditches. Scott > > got the "closest to the pad" landing with his snitch that drifted back > > and landed about 6' from the pad. I think we had about 25-30 total > > launches including a few others on the field that were not in our > > immediate group. Motors ranged from B - F. A few AP motors were > > flown, mostly BP though. > > I posted my pictures here: http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU > > I'm looking forward to next month's launch! > > -- > > - Dave > > _______________________________________________ > > Rockets mailing list > > mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com > > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rockets mailing list > > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > From dmrandall at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 10:15:43 2009 From: dmrandall at gmail.com (Dave Randall) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:15:43 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report In-Reply-To: References: <6bc920e40902211536u7a9bc5a0sac3fb3fcc4fef07e@mail.gmail.com> <324976.70111.qm@web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A57F91.2060200@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6bc920e40902251015r7250f46fn87c401b0bdc9d420@mail.gmail.com> Since St Patrick's day is two days after the launch, I propose: "Leapin' Leprechaun Launch" "Green Thunder" Dave On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Bill Munds wrote: > How about??? WET AND WINDY > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=EML_WLHM_GreaterGood http://gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/i_charity.gif EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD > Join me > >> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:27:45 -0800 >> From: hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net >> CC: rockets at rocketsnw.com >> Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report >> >> We've had three successful launches so far with Frost and Fire in >> December, Frozen Thunder in January, and Thawed Out Thunder for >> February. Dave Randall has done a great job bringing out his GSE to >> help make each launch a great one. >> >> There will be a launch next month on 15MAR09 from 1000-1400, but no name >> has been given it. Any one with suggestions? >> >> Robert >> >> >> James Stewart wrote: >> > I wanted to go to this launch since there are really so few opportunities in the Seattle area but scheduling conflicts interfered. So, what's this about a launch next month? Has one been scheduled? >> > >> > Jim Stewart >> > je_stewart at yahoo.com >> > james_stewart at urscorp.com >> > From: >> > Dave Randall >> > To: >> > NW Rocketry mailing list >> > Sent: >> > Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:36:06 PM >> > Subject: >> > [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report >> > Thanks to the fantastic weather, launching was wonderful for Thawed >> > Out Thunder 2009. >> > After arriving at 10 and setting up on field, Mike and his kids showed >> > up with a few rockets, then Scott came with a few models to fly. Brad >> > and Red were close behind as well as Dave from PSP (all three were >> > sans rockets however). George came a bit later with a box o'rockets >> > as well as some other flyers and spectators. >> > All flights were successful - no catostrophic failures (although >> > George did pop out a motor mount). Recovery was almost always >> > on-field with a few floating over to the road or the ditches. Scott >> > got the "closest to the pad" landing with his snitch that drifted back >> > and landed about 6' from the pad. I think we had about 25-30 total >> > launches including a few others on the field that were not in our >> > immediate group. Motors ranged from B - F. A few AP motors were >> > flown, mostly BP though. >> > I posted my pictures here: http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU >> > I'm looking forward to next month's launch! >> > -- >> > - Dave >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rockets mailing list >> > mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rockets mailing list >> > Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rockets mailing list >> Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> > > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > -- - Dave From franklyd62 at yahoo.com Wed Feb 25 13:27:45 2009 From: franklyd62 at yahoo.com (lloyd humez) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:27:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [RocketsNW] Titanium all-thread Message-ID: <311878.60022.qm@web50012.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Since last fall, I have ventured in to electronic and building E-bays for existing rockets, or ordering new D-deployment vehicles. I am always searching for strong / light materials for all of these.. So, I asked my fastener supplier if he had any sources for Titanium all-thread, nuts, washers or even eye and u-bolts. After much searching he was able to find 3' lengths of 1/4-20 all thread at $23 per foot (plus shipping from eugene), minimum of 3 pieces. So, I have two of the 3' lengths of this wicked accessory spoken for! We need a commitment for one more 3' stick to place the order. Is there anyone else that wants to lighten their e-bays??? Lloyd, eugene -------------- next part -------------- Since last fall, I have ventured in to electronic and building E-bays for existing rockets, or ordering new D-deployment vehicles. I am always searching for strong / light materials for all of these.. So, I asked my fastener supplier if he had any sources for Titanium all-thread, nuts, washers or even eye and u-bolts. After much searching he was able to find 3' lengths of? 1/4-20 ?all thread at $23 per foot (plus shipping from eugene), minimum of 3 pieces.? So, I have two of the 3' lengths of this wicked accessory spoken for! We need a commitment for one more 3' stick to place the order. Is there anyone else that wants to lighten their e-bays??? Lloyd, eugene From appusher at q.com Wed Feb 25 13:50:03 2009 From: appusher at q.com (Bill Munds) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:50:03 +0000 Subject: [RocketsNW] Performance Rocketry Message-ID: Anybody have a phone for performance rocketry? EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me -------------- next part -------------- Anybody have a phone for performance rocketry? http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=EML_WLHM_GreaterGood http://gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/i_charity.gif EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me From daron at daronjohnson.com Wed Feb 25 13:55:41 2009 From: daron at daronjohnson.com (Daron Johnson) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:55:41 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] [personal] Performance Rocketry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00ae01c99793$cfddb510$6f991f30$@com> Here is what the website shows Performance Rocketry 883 Ragers Hill Rd South Fork, Pa 15956 814-536-8491 -----Original Message----- From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On Behalf Of Bill Munds Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:50 PM To: rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: [personal] [RocketsNW] Performance Rocketry Anybody have a phone for performance rocketry? EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me From robert.krausert at intel.com Wed Feb 25 15:29:28 2009 From: robert.krausert at intel.com (Krausert, Robert) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:29:28 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report In-Reply-To: <6bc920e40902251015r7250f46fn87c401b0bdc9d420@mail.gmail.com> References: <6bc920e40902211536u7a9bc5a0sac3fb3fcc4fef07e@mail.gmail.com> <324976.70111.qm@web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A57F91.2060200@earthlink.net> <6bc920e40902251015r7250f46fn87c401b0bdc9d420@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0D4616E6925F9541919B60692F61509E1FA2D90A@orsmsx502.amr.corp.intel.com> Suggestion. "March 60 in 60 Madness" We will have March Madness (College Ball) happening. And 60 flights in 60 Acres Park. So "March 60 in 60 Madness' Cheers, Robert -----Original Message----- From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On Behalf Of Dave Randall Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:16 AM To: Bill Munds Cc: rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report Since St Patrick's day is two days after the launch, I propose: "Leapin' Leprechaun Launch" "Green Thunder" Dave On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Bill Munds wrote: > How about??? WET AND WINDY > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=EML_WLHM_GreaterGood http://gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/i_charity.gif EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD > Join me > >> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:27:45 -0800 >> From: hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net >> CC: rockets at rocketsnw.com >> Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report >> >> We've had three successful launches so far with Frost and Fire in >> December, Frozen Thunder in January, and Thawed Out Thunder for >> February. Dave Randall has done a great job bringing out his GSE to >> help make each launch a great one. >> >> There will be a launch next month on 15MAR09 from 1000-1400, but no name >> has been given it. Any one with suggestions? >> >> Robert >> >> >> James Stewart wrote: >> > I wanted to go to this launch since there are really so few opportunities in the Seattle area but scheduling conflicts interfered. So, what's this about a launch next month? Has one been scheduled? >> > >> > Jim Stewart >> > je_stewart at yahoo.com >> > james_stewart at urscorp.com >> > From: >> > Dave Randall >> > To: >> > NW Rocketry mailing list >> > Sent: >> > Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:36:06 PM >> > Subject: >> > [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report >> > Thanks to the fantastic weather, launching was wonderful for Thawed >> > Out Thunder 2009. >> > After arriving at 10 and setting up on field, Mike and his kids showed >> > up with a few rockets, then Scott came with a few models to fly. Brad >> > and Red were close behind as well as Dave from PSP (all three were >> > sans rockets however). George came a bit later with a box o'rockets >> > as well as some other flyers and spectators. >> > All flights were successful - no catostrophic failures (although >> > George did pop out a motor mount). Recovery was almost always >> > on-field with a few floating over to the road or the ditches. Scott >> > got the "closest to the pad" landing with his snitch that drifted back >> > and landed about 6' from the pad. I think we had about 25-30 total >> > launches including a few others on the field that were not in our >> > immediate group. Motors ranged from B - F. A few AP motors were >> > flown, mostly BP though. >> > I posted my pictures here: http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU >> > I'm looking forward to next month's launch! >> > -- >> > - Dave >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rockets mailing list >> > mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rockets mailing list >> > Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rockets mailing list >> Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> > > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > -- - Dave _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets From fred.azinger at intel.com Wed Feb 25 15:32:36 2009 From: fred.azinger at intel.com (Azinger, Fred) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:32:36 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] [personal] Performance Rocketry In-Reply-To: <00ae01c99793$cfddb510$6f991f30$@com> References: <00ae01c99793$cfddb510$6f991f30$@com> Message-ID: Yes -- there is a full answering machine with Curtis' voice at that number. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On Behalf Of Daron Johnson Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:56 PM To: 'Bill Munds'; rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] [personal] Performance Rocketry Here is what the website shows Performance Rocketry 883 Ragers Hill Rd South Fork, Pa 15956 814-536-8491 -----Original Message----- From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On Behalf Of Bill Munds Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:50 PM To: rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: [personal] [RocketsNW] Performance Rocketry Anybody have a phone for performance rocketry? EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets From je_stewart at yahoo.com Wed Feb 25 15:57:58 2009 From: je_stewart at yahoo.com (James Stewart) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:57:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report In-Reply-To: <0D4616E6925F9541919B60692F61509E1FA2D90A@orsmsx502.amr.corp.intel.com> References: <6bc920e40902211536u7a9bc5a0sac3fb3fcc4fef07e@mail.gmail.com> <324976.70111.qm@web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A57F91.2060200@earthlink.net> <6bc920e40902251015r7250f46fn87c401b0bdc9d420@mail.gmail.com> <0D4616E6925F9541919B60692F61509E1FA2D90A@orsmsx502.amr.corp.intel.com> Message-ID: <789745.14076.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It may be a bit nerdy and isn't any kind of a pun, but how about 'The Ides of March'? Jim Stewart je_stewart at yahoo.com james_stewart at urscorp.com ________________________________ From: "Krausert, Robert" To: Dave Randall ; Bill Munds Cc: "rockets at rocketsnw.com" Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:29:28 PM Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report Suggestion. "March 60 in 60 Madness" We will have March Madness (College Ball) happening. And 60 flights in 60 Acres Park. So "March 60 in 60 Madness' Cheers, Robert -----Original Message----- From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On Behalf Of Dave Randall Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:16 AM To: Bill Munds Cc: rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report Since St Patrick's day is two days after the launch, I propose: "Leapin' Leprechaun Launch" "Green Thunder" Dave On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Bill Munds wrote: > How about WET AND WINDY > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=EML_WLHM_GreaterGood http://gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/i_charity.gif EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD > Join me > >> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:27:45 -0800 >> From: hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net >> CC: rockets at rocketsnw.com >> Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report >> >> We've had three successful launches so far with Frost and Fire in >> December, Frozen Thunder in January, and Thawed Out Thunder for >> February. Dave Randall has done a great job bringing out his GSE to >> help make each launch a great one. >> >> There will be a launch next month on 15MAR09 from 1000-1400, but no name >> has been given it. Any one with suggestions? >> >> Robert >> >> >> James Stewart wrote: >> > I wanted to go to this launch since there are really so few opportunities in the Seattle area but scheduling conflicts interfered. So, what's this about a launch next month? Has one been scheduled? >> > >> > Jim Stewart >> > je_stewart at yahoo.com >> > james_stewart at urscorp.com >> > From: >> > Dave Randall >> > To: >> > NW Rocketry mailing list >> > Sent: >> > Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:36:06 PM >> > Subject: >> > [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report >> > Thanks to the fantastic weather, launching was wonderful for Thawed >> > Out Thunder 2009. >> > After arriving at 10 and setting up on field, Mike and his kids showed >> > up with a few rockets, then Scott came with a few models to fly. Brad >> > and Red were close behind as well as Dave from PSP (all three were >> > sans rockets however). George came a bit later with a box o'rockets >> > as well as some other flyers and spectators. >> > All flights were successful - no catostrophic failures (although >> > George did pop out a motor mount). Recovery was almost always >> > on-field with a few floating over to the road or the ditches. Scott >> > got the "closest to the pad" landing with his snitch that drifted back >> > and landed about 6' from the pad. I think we had about 25-30 total >> > launches including a few others on the field that were not in our >> > immediate group. Motors ranged from B - F. A few AP motors were >> > flown, mostly BP though. >> > I posted my pictures here: http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU >> > I'm looking forward to next month's launch! >> > -- >> > - Dave >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rockets mailing list >> > mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rockets mailing list >> > Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rockets mailing list >> Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> > > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > -- - Dave _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets -------------- next part -------------- It may be a bit nerdy and isn't any kind of a pun, but how about 'The Ides of March'? ? Jim Stewart je_stewart at yahoo.com james_stewart at urscorp.com From: "Krausert, Robert" To: Dave Randall ; Bill Munds Cc: "rockets at rocketsnw.com" Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:29:28 PM Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report Suggestion. "March 60 in 60 Madness" We will have March Madness (College Ball) happening. And 60 flights in 60 Acres Park. So "March 60 in 60 Madness' Cheers, Robert -----Original Message----- From: mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto: mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com ] On Behalf Of Dave Randall Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:16 AM To: Bill Munds Cc: mailto:rockets at rocketsnw.com rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report Since St Patrick's day is two days after the launch, I propose: "Leapin' Leprechaun Launch" "Green Thunder" Dave On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Bill Munds < mailto:appusher at q.com appusher at q.com > wrote: > How about??? WET AND WINDY > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=EML_WLHM_GreaterGood http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=EML_WLHM_GreaterGood http://gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/i_charity.gif http://gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/i_charity.gif EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD > Join me > >> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:27:45 -0800 >> From: mailto:hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net >> CC: mailto:rockets at rocketsnw.com rockets at rocketsnw.com >> Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report >> >> We've had three successful launches so far with Frost and Fire in >> December, Frozen Thunder in January, and Thawed Out Thunder for >> February. Dave Randall has done a great job bringing out his GSE to >> help make each launch a great one. >> >> There will be a launch next month on 15MAR09 from 1000-1400, but no name >> has been given it. Any one with suggestions? >> >> Robert >> >> >> James Stewart wrote: >> > I wanted to go to this launch since there are really so few opportunities in the Seattle area but scheduling conflicts interfered. So, what's this about a launch next month? Has one been scheduled? >> > >> > Jim Stewart >> > mailto:je_stewart at yahoo.com je_stewart at yahoo.com >> > mailto:james_stewart at urscorp.com james_stewart at urscorp.com >> > From: >> > Dave Randall < mailto:dmrandall at gmail.com dmrandall at gmail.com > >> > To: >> > NW Rocketry mailing list < mailto:rockets at rocketsnw.com rockets at rocketsnw.com > >> > Sent: >> > Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:36:06 PM >> > Subject: >> > [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report >> > Thanks to the fantastic weather, launching was wonderful for Thawed >> > Out Thunder 2009. >> > After arriving at 10 and setting up on field, Mike and his kids showed >> > up with a few rockets, then Scott came with a few models to fly. Brad >> > and Red were close behind as well as Dave from PSP (all three were >> > sans rockets however). George came a bit later with a box o'rockets >> > as well as some other flyers and spectators. >> > All flights were successful - no catostrophic failures (although >> > George did pop out a motor mount). Recovery was almost always >> > on-field with a few floating over to the road or the ditches. Scott >> > got the "closest to the pad" landing with his snitch that drifted back >> > and landed about 6' from the pad. I think we had about 25-30 total >> > launches including a few others on the field that were not in our >> > immediate group. Motors ranged from B - F. A few AP motors were >> > flown, mostly BP though. >> > I posted my pictures here: http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU >> > I'm looking forward to next month's launch! >> > -- >> > - Dave >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rockets mailing list >> > mailto: mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rockets mailing list >> > mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rockets mailing list >> mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> > > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > -- - Dave _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets ? _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets ? From greg at blastzone.com Wed Feb 25 18:34:26 2009 From: greg at blastzone.com (Greg Deputy) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:34:26 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Titanium all-thread In-Reply-To: <311878.60022.qm@web50012.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <311878.60022.qm@web50012.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <13aa01c997ba$be8861d0$3b992570$@com> Ever considered using the fiberglass version? Lighter and cheaper. > -----Original Message----- > From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On > Behalf Of lloyd humez > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:28 PM > To: rockets at rocketsnw.com > Subject: [RocketsNW] Titanium all-thread > > Since last fall, I have ventured in to electronic and building E-bays for > existing rockets, or ordering new D-deployment vehicles. I am always searching > for strong / light materials for all of these.. > > So, I asked my fastener supplier if he had any sources for Titanium all- > thread, nuts, washers or even eye and u-bolts. After much searching he was > able to find 3' lengths of 1/4-20 all thread at $23 per foot (plus shipping > from eugene), minimum of 3 pieces. > > So, I have two of the 3' lengths of this wicked accessory spoken for! We need > a commitment for one more 3' stick to place the order. Is there anyone else > that wants to lighten their e-bays??? > > Lloyd, eugene > > > From scott at scottsrockets.com Wed Feb 25 18:36:47 2009 From: scott at scottsrockets.com (Scott T Bowers) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:36:47 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Titanium all-thread In-Reply-To: <13aa01c997ba$be8861d0$3b992570$@com> References: <311878.60022.qm@web50012.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <13aa01c997ba$be8861d0$3b992570$@com> Message-ID: <79AD5DA7E6BF403793E90608D0A94469@Mobile2> Or why not just thread a stick of aluminum? Better yet, just put a bigger motor in it. Scott T. Bowers www.scottsrockets.com -----Original Message----- From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On Behalf Of Greg Deputy Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 6:34 PM To: 'lloyd humez'; rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Titanium all-thread Ever considered using the fiberglass version? Lighter and cheaper. > -----Original Message----- > From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com > [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On > Behalf Of lloyd humez > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:28 PM > To: rockets at rocketsnw.com > Subject: [RocketsNW] Titanium all-thread > > Since last fall, I have ventured in to electronic and building E-bays > for existing rockets, or ordering new D-deployment vehicles. I am > always searching > for strong / light materials for all of these.. > > So, I asked my fastener supplier if he had any sources for Titanium > all- thread, nuts, washers or even eye and u-bolts. After much > searching he was able to find 3' lengths of 1/4-20 all thread at $23 > per foot (plus shipping > from eugene), minimum of 3 pieces. > > So, I have two of the 3' lengths of this wicked accessory spoken for! > We need > a commitment for one more 3' stick to place the order. Is there anyone else > that wants to lighten their e-bays??? > > Lloyd, eugene > > > _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets From kmcgoffin at worldaccessnet.com Thu Feb 26 02:00:24 2009 From: kmcgoffin at worldaccessnet.com (kmcgoffin at worldaccessnet.com) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:00:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [RocketsNW] Titanium all-thread In-Reply-To: <13aa01c997ba$be8861d0$3b992570$@com> References: <311878.60022.qm@web50012.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <13aa01c997ba$be8861d0$3b992570$@com> Message-ID: I didn't even know anyone made titanium all-thread. Or fiberglass all-thread. But why stop at titanium? If you want exotic and expensive, beryllium all-thread would be a lot lighter and even MORE expensive... Stay focused guys! It's hobby rocketry, not Pentagon cost-plus contract work. Of course, if anybody has so much money they just can't figure out how to get rid of it all, I'll gladly accept envelopes stuffed full of C-notes! LOL +McG+ > Ever considered using the fiberglass version? Lighter and cheaper. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com >> [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] > On >> Behalf Of lloyd humez >> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:28 PM >> To: rockets at rocketsnw.com >> Subject: [RocketsNW] Titanium all-thread >> >> Since last fall, I have ventured in to electronic and building E-bays >> for >> existing rockets, or ordering new D-deployment vehicles. I am always > searching >> for strong / light materials for all of these.. >> >> So, I asked my fastener supplier if he had any sources for Titanium all- >> thread, nuts, washers or even eye and u-bolts. After much searching he >> was >> able to find 3' lengths of 1/4-20 all thread at $23 per foot (plus > shipping >> from eugene), minimum of 3 pieces. >> >> So, I have two of the 3' lengths of this wicked accessory spoken for! We > need >> a commitment for one more 3' stick to place the order. Is there anyone > else >> that wants to lighten their e-bays??? >> >> Lloyd, eugene >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > From bradwr at wrightholdings.com Thu Feb 26 06:52:42 2009 From: bradwr at wrightholdings.com (Brad Wright) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:52:42 +0000 Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report In-Reply-To: <789745.14076.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <6bc920e40902211536u7a9bc5a0sac3fb3fcc4fef07e@mail.gmail.com> <324976.70111.qm@web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A57F91.2060200@earthlink.net> <6bc920e40902251015r7250f46fn87c401b0bdc9d420@mail.gmail.com> <0D4616E6925F9541919B60692F61509E1FA2D90A@orsmsx502.amr.corp.intel.com> <789745.14076.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4EC021482946994792D633FF8E22EB0B302F189FDF@BL2PRD0101MB002.prod.exchangelabs.com> sure, daggers required.... -----Original Message----- From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On Behalf Of James Stewart Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:58 PM To: rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report It may be a bit nerdy and isn't any kind of a pun, but how about 'The Ides of March'? Jim Stewart je_stewart at yahoo.com james_stewart at urscorp.com ________________________________ From: "Krausert, Robert" To: Dave Randall ; Bill Munds Cc: "rockets at rocketsnw.com" Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:29:28 PM Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report Suggestion. "March 60 in 60 Madness" We will have March Madness (College Ball) happening. And 60 flights in 60 Acres Park. So "March 60 in 60 Madness' Cheers, Robert -----Original Message----- From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On Behalf Of Dave Randall Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:16 AM To: Bill Munds Cc: rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report Since St Patrick's day is two days after the launch, I propose: "Leapin' Leprechaun Launch" "Green Thunder" Dave On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Bill Munds wrote: > How about WET AND WINDY > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=EML_WLHM_GreaterGood > http://gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/i_charity.gif EMAILING FOR THE > GREATER GOOD Join me > >> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:27:45 -0800 >> From: hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net >> CC: rockets at rocketsnw.com >> Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report >> >> We've had three successful launches so far with Frost and Fire in >> December, Frozen Thunder in January, and Thawed Out Thunder for >> February. Dave Randall has done a great job bringing out his GSE to >> help make each launch a great one. >> >> There will be a launch next month on 15MAR09 from 1000-1400, but no >> name has been given it. Any one with suggestions? >> >> Robert >> >> >> James Stewart wrote: >> > I wanted to go to this launch since there are really so few opportunities in the Seattle area but scheduling conflicts interfered. So, what's this about a launch next month? Has one been scheduled? >> > >> > Jim Stewart >> > je_stewart at yahoo.com >> > james_stewart at urscorp.com >> > From: >> > Dave Randall >> > To: >> > NW Rocketry mailing list >> > Sent: >> > Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:36:06 PM >> > Subject: >> > [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report Thanks to the >> > fantastic weather, launching was wonderful for Thawed Out Thunder >> > 2009. >> > After arriving at 10 and setting up on field, Mike and his kids >> > showed up with a few rockets, then Scott came with a few models to >> > fly. Brad and Red were close behind as well as Dave from PSP (all >> > three were sans rockets however). George came a bit later with a >> > box o'rockets as well as some other flyers and spectators. >> > All flights were successful - no catostrophic failures (although >> > George did pop out a motor mount). Recovery was almost always >> > on-field with a few floating over to the road or the ditches. Scott >> > got the "closest to the pad" landing with his snitch that drifted >> > back and landed about 6' from the pad. I think we had about 25-30 >> > total launches including a few others on the field that were not in >> > our immediate group. Motors ranged from B - F. A few AP motors were >> > flown, mostly BP though. >> > I posted my pictures here: >> > http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU >> > http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU >> > I'm looking forward to next month's launch! >> > -- >> > - Dave >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rockets mailing list >> > mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ----- >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rockets mailing list >> > Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rockets mailing list >> Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> > > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > -- - Dave _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets From aaronfogg at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 07:31:54 2009 From: aaronfogg at gmail.com (Aaron Fogg) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:31:54 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report In-Reply-To: <4EC021482946994792D633FF8E22EB0B302F189FDF@BL2PRD0101MB002.prod.exchangelabs.com> References: <6bc920e40902211536u7a9bc5a0sac3fb3fcc4fef07e@mail.gmail.com> <324976.70111.qm@web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A57F91.2060200@earthlink.net> <6bc920e40902251015r7250f46fn87c401b0bdc9d420@mail.gmail.com> <0D4616E6925F9541919B60692F61509E1FA2D90A@orsmsx502.amr.corp.intel.com> <789745.14076.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4EC021482946994792D633FF8E22EB0B302F189FDF@BL2PRD0101MB002.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: Might I suggest frost and fire again. ;) Winter has returned. -------------- next part -------------- Might I suggest frost and fire again. ;) Winter has returned. From mfreptiles at aol.com Thu Feb 26 11:20:58 2009 From: mfreptiles at aol.com (mfreptiles at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:20:58 -0500 Subject: [RocketsNW] Titanium all-thread In-Reply-To: <79AD5DA7E6BF403793E90608D0A94469@Mobile2> References: <311878.60022.qm@web50012.mail.re2.yahoo.com><13aa01c997ba$be8861d0$3b992570$@com> <79AD5DA7E6BF403793E90608D0A94469@Mobile2> Message-ID: <8CB665E7CB04B0F-D64-20D3@FWM-M19.sysops.aol.com> No need to thread the aluminum rod, just order aluminum all thread. Mike F. Or why not just thread a stick of aluminum? Better yet, just put a bigger motor in it. Scott T. Bowers www.scottsrockets.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott T Bowers To: 'Greg Deputy' ; 'lloyd humez' ; rockets at rocketsnw.com Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 6:36 pm Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Titanium all-thread Or why not just thread a stick of aluminum? Better yet, just put a bigger motor in it. Scott T. Bowers www.scottsrockets.com -----Original Message----- From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On Behalf Of Greg Deputy Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 6:34 PM To: 'lloyd humez'; rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Titanium all-thread Ever considered using the fiberglass version? Lighter and cheaper. > -----Original Message----- > From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com > [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] On > Behalf Of lloyd humez > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:28 PM > To: rockets at rocketsnw.com > Subject: [RocketsNW] Titanium all-thread > > Since last fall, I have ventured in to electronic and building E-bays > for existing rockets, or ordering new D-deployment vehicles. I am > always searching > for strong / light materials for all of these.. > > So, I asked my fastener supplier if he had any sources for Titanium > all- thread, nuts, washers or even eye and u-bolts. After much > searching he was able to find 3' lengths of 1/4-20 all thread at $23 > per foot (plus shipping > from eugene), minimum of 3 pieces. > > So, I have two of the 3' lengths of this wicked accessory spoken for! > We need > a commitment for one more 3' stick to place the order. Is there anyone else > that wants to lighten their e-bays??? > > Lloyd, eugene > > > _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets -------------- next part -------------- Mike F. Or why not just thread a stick of aluminum? Better yet, just put a bigger motor in it. Scott T. Bowers http://www.scottsrockets.com/ www.scottsrockets.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott T Bowers To: 'Greg Deputy' ; 'lloyd humez' ; rockets at rocketsnw.com Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 6:36 pm Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Titanium all-thread Or why not just thread a stick of aluminum? Better yet, just put a bigger motor in it. Scott T. Bowers http://www.scottsrockets.com/ www.scottsrockets.com -----Original Message----- From: mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [ mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com? mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com ] On Behalf Of Greg Deputy Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 6:34 PM To: 'lloyd humez'; mailto:rockets at rocketsnw.com rockets at rocketsnw.com Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Titanium all-thread Ever considered using the fiberglass version? Lighter and cheaper. > -----Original Message----- > From: mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com > [ mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com? mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com ] On > Behalf Of lloyd humez > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:28 PM > To: mailto:rockets at rocketsnw.com rockets at rocketsnw.com > Subject: [RocketsNW] Titanium all-thread > > Since last fall, I have ventured in to electronic and building E-bays > for existing rockets, or ordering new D-deployment vehicles. I am > always searching > for strong / light materials for all of these.. > > So, I asked my fastener supplier if he had any sources for Titanium > all- thread, nuts, washers or even eye and u-bolts. After much > searching he was able to find 3' lengths of 1/4-20 all thread at $23 > per foot (plus shipping > from eugene), minimum of 3 pieces. > > So, I have two of the 3' lengths of this wicked accessory spoken for! > We need > a commitment for one more 3' stick to place the order. Is there anyone else > that wants to lighten their e-bays??? > > Lloyd, eugene > > > _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62 See yours in just 2 easy steps! From patrick at urbancheese.com Wed Feb 25 17:28:19 2009 From: patrick at urbancheese.com (patrick (urban cheese records)) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:28:19 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report In-Reply-To: <789745.14076.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <6bc920e40902211536u7a9bc5a0sac3fb3fcc4fef07e@mail.gmail.com><324976.70111.qm@web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com><49A57F91.2060200@earthlink.net><6bc920e40902251015r7250f46fn87c401b0bdc9d420@mail.gmail.com><0D4616E6925F9541919B60692F61509E1FA2D90A@orsmsx502.amr.corp.intel.com> <789745.14076.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2CB8397B5B264614AF737FFAF20526D6@redmond.corp.microsoft.com> How about March Mudness? ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Stewart" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report > It may be a bit nerdy and isn't any kind of a pun, but how about 'The Ides > of March'? > > Jim Stewart > je_stewart at yahoo.com > james_stewart at urscorp.com > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "Krausert, Robert" > To: Dave Randall ; Bill Munds > Cc: "rockets at rocketsnw.com" > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:29:28 PM > Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report > > Suggestion. > > "March 60 in 60 Madness" > > We will have March Madness (College Ball) happening. And 60 flights in 60 > Acres Park. So "March 60 in 60 Madness' > > Cheers, > Robert > > -----Original Message----- > From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com] > On Behalf Of Dave Randall > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:16 AM > To: Bill Munds > Cc: rockets at rocketsnw.com > Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report > > Since St Patrick's day is two days after the launch, I propose: > > "Leapin' Leprechaun Launch" > "Green Thunder" > > Dave > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Bill Munds wrote: >> How about WET AND WINDY >> http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=EML_WLHM_GreaterGood >> http://gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/i_charity.gif EMAILING FOR THE >> GREATER GOOD >> Join me >> >>> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:27:45 -0800 >>> From: hammerhatesjunkmail at earthlink.net >>> CC: rockets at rocketsnw.com >>> Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report >>> >>> We've had three successful launches so far with Frost and Fire in >>> December, Frozen Thunder in January, and Thawed Out Thunder for >>> February. Dave Randall has done a great job bringing out his GSE to >>> help make each launch a great one. >>> >>> There will be a launch next month on 15MAR09 from 1000-1400, but no name >>> has been given it. Any one with suggestions? >>> >>> Robert >>> >>> >>> James Stewart wrote: >>> > I wanted to go to this launch since there are really so few >>> > opportunities in the Seattle area but scheduling conflicts interfered. >>> > So, what's this about a launch next month? Has one been scheduled? >>> > >>> > Jim Stewart >>> > je_stewart at yahoo.com >>> > james_stewart at urscorp.com >>> > From: >>> > Dave Randall >>> > To: >>> > NW Rocketry mailing list >>> > Sent: >>> > Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:36:06 PM >>> > Subject: >>> > [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report >>> > Thanks to the fantastic weather, launching was wonderful for Thawed >>> > Out Thunder 2009. >>> > After arriving at 10 and setting up on field, Mike and his kids showed >>> > up with a few rockets, then Scott came with a few models to fly. Brad >>> > and Red were close behind as well as Dave from PSP (all three were >>> > sans rockets however). George came a bit later with a box o'rockets >>> > as well as some other flyers and spectators. >>> > All flights were successful - no catostrophic failures (although >>> > George did pop out a motor mount). Recovery was almost always >>> > on-field with a few floating over to the road or the ditches. Scott >>> > got the "closest to the pad" landing with his snitch that drifted back >>> > and landed about 6' from the pad. I think we had about 25-30 total >>> > launches including a few others on the field that were not in our >>> > immediate group. Motors ranged from B - F. A few AP motors were >>> > flown, mostly BP though. >>> > I posted my pictures here: >>> > http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU >>> > http://dmrimaging.smugmug.com/gallery/7417204_JpnJU >>> > I'm looking forward to next month's launch! >>> > -- >>> > - Dave >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Rockets mailing list >>> > mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com >>> > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >>> > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Rockets mailing list >>> > Rockets at rocketsnw.com >>> > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rockets mailing list >>> Rockets at rocketsnw.com >>> http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rockets mailing list >> Rockets at rocketsnw.com >> http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets >> >> > > > > -- > - Dave > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > From mkquinn at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 07:06:58 2009 From: mkquinn at gmail.com (Mark Quinn) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 07:06:58 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report In-Reply-To: <2CB8397B5B264614AF737FFAF20526D6@redmond.corp.microsoft.com> References: <6bc920e40902211536u7a9bc5a0sac3fb3fcc4fef07e@mail.gmail.com> <324976.70111.qm@web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A57F91.2060200@earthlink.net> <6bc920e40902251015r7250f46fn87c401b0bdc9d420@mail.gmail.com> <0D4616E6925F9541919B60692F61509E1FA2D90A@orsmsx502.amr.corp.intel.com> <789745.14076.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2CB8397B5B264614AF737FFAF20526D6@redmond.corp.microsoft.com> Message-ID: <5a1085980902270706h7b950f46w53dccc8101b7ec2a@mail.gmail.com> > > *"How about March Mudness?"* > This one's my favorite [?] I've been dusting off my model rockets and will try to get to this one. Mark -------------- next part -------------- "How about March Mudness?" ? This one's my favorite cid:330 at goomoji.gmail ? I've been dusting off my model rockets and will try to get to this one. ? Mark -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 96 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/rockets/attachments/20090227/637089f0/attachment.gif From dmrandall at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 14:55:02 2009 From: dmrandall at gmail.com (Dave Randall) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:55:02 -0800 Subject: [RocketsNW] Thawed Out Thunder Launch Report In-Reply-To: <5a1085980902270706h7b950f46w53dccc8101b7ec2a@mail.gmail.com> References: <6bc920e40902211536u7a9bc5a0sac3fb3fcc4fef07e@mail.gmail.com> <324976.70111.qm@web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A57F91.2060200@earthlink.net> <6bc920e40902251015r7250f46fn87c401b0bdc9d420@mail.gmail.com> <0D4616E6925F9541919B60692F61509E1FA2D90A@orsmsx502.amr.corp.intel.com> <789745.14076.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2CB8397B5B264614AF737FFAF20526D6@redmond.corp.microsoft.com> <5a1085980902270706h7b950f46w53dccc8101b7ec2a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6bc920e40902271455h537ddb2cpafc2b6a5104bf40@mail.gmail.com> Ya, my favorite too. On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Mark Quinn wrote: > "How about March Mudness?" > > This one's my favorite cid:330 at goomoji.gmail > > I've been dusting off my model rockets and will try to get to this one. > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > Rockets mailing list > Rockets at rocketsnw.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets > > -- - Dave -------------- next part -------------- On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Mark Quinn < mailto:mkquinn at gmail.com mkquinn at gmail.com > wrote: "How about March Mudness?" ? This one's my favorite cid:330 at goomoji.gmail ? I've been dusting off my model rockets and will try to get to this one. ? Mark _______________________________________________ Rockets mailing list mailto:Rockets at rocketsnw.com Rockets at rocketsnw.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/rockets ? -- - Dave