[RocketsNW] FW: Mark Aguiar (WA L&I Inspector) Looked AtMyExpl. Magazine Today
Scott T Bowers
scott at scottsrockets.com
Tue Apr 7 09:21:03 PDT 2009
Excellent point. If WA tried to regulate it as explosive we already won that
battle.
Scott T. Bowers
www.scottsrockets.com
-----Original Message-----
From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com]
On Behalf Of Schurke, Peter
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 9:13 AM
To: rockets at rocketsnw.com
Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] FW: Mark Aguiar (WA L&I Inspector) Looked AtMyExpl.
Magazine Today
My $0.02
My admitedly not law school quality law class that I was required to take
when I was getting my Principal's certificate leads me to believe that if a
Federal Judge has ruled that APCP is not an explosive, then it would be
somewhat less than legal for the state to regulate it as such.
Sounds to me like we should definitely take Mr. Aguiar's suggestion and
lobby the state about dropping their regulation of APCP, but we're now
dealing from a position of strength, as we have a Federal Court Decision
that backs us up.
Peter Schurke
Teacher and Lead Advisor
Ingraham Aerospace Sciences Academy
Ingraham High School
Seattle, WA
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From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com on behalf of Dave Randall
Sent: Tue 4/7/2009 6:46 AM
To: Greg Deputy
Cc: Rockets NW list
Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] FW: Mark Aguiar (WA L&I Inspector) Looked At
MyExpl. Magazine Today
But at least Mr Aguiar thought it was worthwhile for the clubs to pursue
getting it removed from the L&I regulations. Given current budget issues in
the state, it might be opportune time to enlighten our state government in
another way to reduce unnecessary expenditures.
Dave
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Greg Deputy <greg at blastzone.com> wrote:
> Well that's a bummer, if the state indeed wants to keep regulating it.
> Doesn't make any sense, though, seeing that they're so understaffed
> that they cant even send out renewal forms or answer the phone.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com
>> [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com]
> On
>> Behalf Of Marty2
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 6:27 AM
>> To: 'Rockets NW list'
>> Subject: [RocketsNW] FW: Mark Aguiar (WA L&I Inspector) Looked At My
Expl.
>> Magazine Today
>>
>> A little feedback from a Washington L&I Inspection.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: David Luders [mailto:LudersDG at MSN.com]
>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 4:30 PM
>> To: absworld at cet.com; tyeeking at hotmail.com; bret.simpkins at pnl.gov;
>> bar0051 at homenetnw.net; jcooney805 at comcast.net;
>> the.vogels at verizon.net; hans.vogel at pnl.gov; JSHalstead at aol.com;
>> jim at otisace.com;
> lmceuen at comcast.net;
>> rocfish74 at hotmail.com; martyweiser at comcast.net; rob at otisace.com;
>> ramberg at icehouse.net; Jinxblink at hotmail.com; raystoner99 at comcast.net;
>> Mark.Howe at compucom.com
>> Subject: Mark Aguiar (WA L&I Inspector) Looked At My Expl. Magazine
>> Today
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Aguiar of the State of Washington Department of Labor &
>> Industries
>> (L&I) just finished his annual inspection of my Explosive Magazine.
>> Even though my WA L&I magazine license had expired on Feb 15, 2009,
>> he gave me permission to continue storing rocketry stuff in the
>> magazine. I had been storing it in my portable magazine in my
>> garage. My federal LEUP doesn't expire until June 1, 2009. He was
>> very aware of the recent court decision whereby the NAR prevailed over
the BATFE, but he made these points:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) The BATFE has 60 days in which they can appeal the federal
>> judge's decision. He advised that rocketeers DON'T rip up their LEUPs
just yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2) The State of Washington could still regulate APCP as a "Low
> Explosive",
>> even though the federal government may give up its fight. Mr. Aguiar
>> had asked his boss in Tumwater about this, and he got an answer that
>> the State
> of
>> Washington was inclined to keep regulating APCP (and, hence, keep
> requiring a
>> WA Explosive Magazine license). He recommended that the WA rocketry
>> clubs band together to get the ear of a state legislator, to convince
>> the WA L&I folks not to regulate APCP if the BATFE doesn't consider
>> it a "Low
> Explosive"
>> anymore.
>>
>>
>>
>> 3) The 1-lb. tin of FFFFg black powder doesn't have to be stored in
>> the magazine.
>>
>>
>>
>> 4) I must send in my $124.25 fee, plus fingerprint card (which costs
>> ~$25
> at
>> the Airway Heights Police Department to get done), to renew my state
> Explosive
>> Magazine license. I'm not in trouble, but I must attend to this soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Dave Luders, SPARC, NAR #81772 L2
>
>
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