From jarrett.gorin at centerpointdevelopmentpartners.com Tue Sep 2 17:14:10 2008 From: jarrett.gorin at centerpointdevelopmentpartners.com (Jarrett Gorin, AICP) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 20:14:10 -0400 Subject: [ARTS] Can't get ARTS2 to Communicate with DataAnalyzer Message-ID: <6A4E9D4D2E587A48B8EFEDC38217150A033DBF6C@mse15be2.mse15.exchange.ms> I completed a little more testing using HyperTerminal. I followed some directions Erik gave me to confirm whether or not my ARTS2 is able to communicate over the serial port. We were able to confirm that the PC is receiving data downstream from the ARTS2, but that the ARTS2 is not getting any data upstream from the PC. So comms can't be established. Apparently my ARTS2 is defective. Erik is replacing it. In case anyone else wants to use Hyperterminal to test their ARTS2, here are Erik's instructions: "One other idea is to use HyperTerminal to communicate with the ARTS. Set it up for 38k8 n81, plug in and power up the ARTS. Upon power up you will see, each time it beeps, a > character being sent to the PC. DataAnalyzer looks for this character and responds with a CR. When the ARTS receives this CR, then it stops beeping and awaits a command from DataAnalyzer. At this point try typing a lowercase z. It should trigger the buzzer test. This will at least let you know if the ARTS can communicate with the PC, and is a good way to test comm in both directions." BTW, if you try this, don't think it is strange if at first you don't see anything happening when you try to type things into HyperTerminal. If you want to be able to see your characters, you have to go into the options and enable "echo characters locally". -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080902/11ca5d4a/attachment.htm From jarrett.gorin at centerpointdevelopmentpartners.com Tue Sep 9 12:57:11 2008 From: jarrett.gorin at centerpointdevelopmentpartners.com (Jarrett Gorin, AICP) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 15:57:11 -0400 Subject: [ARTS] Need Recommendation For E-matches In 1-Battery Configuration Message-ID: <6A4E9D4D2E587A48B8EFEDC38217150A0349C06C@mse15be2.mse15.exchange.ms> Hi, I wanted to find out from other ARTS2 users what E-matches work best when you are flying in a 1-battery configuration and w/o bypassing the current limiter. I already know that it is better to fly with two batteries etc. Please don't repond with recommendations to "just hook up a 2nd battery, as that is not what I am asking about here. I know how to set things up with 2 batteries, but I have some cases where size constraints don't allow for that, and I need to fly with just one. I am having an impossible time finding an E-match or other charge initiator that will fire reliably on the 500ma current that the ARTS2 supplies in 1-battery mode. M-tek E-matches from MJG say they fire on a "minimum" current of 500ma but that sounds dicey to me...like they might not fire. If there are any other users out there who have flown it this way, and identified a product that works reliably at 500ma, please let me know the name of the product, and also the name of your supplier. Thanks in advance! Jarrett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080909/a42b44a6/attachment.htm From jmwilkerson at hotmail.com Tue Sep 9 13:09:41 2008 From: jmwilkerson at hotmail.com (Jim Wilkerson) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:09:41 -0700 Subject: [ARTS] Need Recommendation For E-matches In 1-Battery Configuration In-Reply-To: <6A4E9D4D2E587A48B8EFEDC38217150A0349C06C@mse15be2.mse15.exchange.ms> References: <6A4E9D4D2E587A48B8EFEDC38217150A0349C06C@mse15be2.mse15.exchange.ms> Message-ID: Jarrett - if you can find someone with some Daveyfires left, either the 28Bs or Fs, those work fine in single-battery. I've flown a number of flights using MTeks in single battery configuration, and the ARTS2 has fired every one of those matches. JTeks are a different story. I've always needed two batteries for the JTeks. Get yourself a bunch of MTeks and ground test until you're comfortable that they'll fire reliably in the single-battery configuration.RegardsJim Wilkerson Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 15:57:11 -0400From: jarrett.gorin at centerpointdevelopmentpartners.comTo: arts at lokiresearch.comSubject: [ARTS] Need Recommendation For E-matches In 1-Battery Configuration Hi, I wanted to find out from other ARTS2 users what E-matches work best when you are flying in a 1-battery configuration and w/o bypassing the current limiter. I already know that it is better to fly with two batteries etc. Please don?t repond with recommendations to ?just hook up a 2nd battery, as that is not what I am asking about here. I know how to set things up with 2 batteries, but I have some cases where size constraints don?t allow for that, and I need to fly with just one. I am having an impossible time finding an E-match or other charge initiator that will fire reliably on the 500ma current that the ARTS2 supplies in 1-battery mode. M-tek E-matches from MJG say they fire on a ?minimum? current of 500ma but that sounds dicey to me?like they might not fire. If there are any other users out there who have flown it this way, and identified a product that works reliably at 500ma, please let me know the name of the product, and also the name of your supplier. Thanks in advance! Jarrett _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080909/2c43adcd/attachment.htm From absworld at cet.com Tue Sep 9 14:26:43 2008 From: absworld at cet.com (Bob and Ann Yanecek) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:26:43 -0700 Subject: [ARTS] Need Recommendation For E-matches In 1-Battery Configuration In-Reply-To: <6A4E9D4D2E587A48B8EFEDC38217150A0349C06C@mse15be2.mse15.exchange.ms> Message-ID: <003b01c912c2$c2a728a0$2d1ecac6@CADDANCE> I see they call out 500ma as the minimum all-fire current (i.e. every match should fire at or below 500ma). Though they also ?recommend? 750ma minimum firing current so perhaps the 500ma specification really indicates something less than 100% all fire? What about running 1 battery in 2-battery mode and accept the risk of brown out on the computer end? Bob Yanecek -----Original Message----- From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] On Behalf Of Jarrett Gorin, AICP Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:57 PM To: arts at lokiresearch.com Subject: [ARTS] Need Recommendation For E-matches In 1-Battery Configuration Hi, I wanted to find out from other ARTS2 users what E-matches work best when you are flying in a 1-battery configuration and w/o bypassing the current limiter. I already know that it is better to fly with two batteries etc. Please don?t repond with recommendations to ?just hook up a 2nd battery, as that is not what I am asking about here. I know how to set things up with 2 batteries, but I have some cases where size constraints don?t allow for that, and I need to fly with just one. I am having an impossible time finding an E-match or other charge initiator that will fire reliably on the 500ma current that the ARTS2 supplies in 1-battery mode. M-tek E-matches from MJG say they fire on a ?minimum? current of 500ma but that sounds dicey to me?like they might not fire. If there are any other users out there who have flown it this way, and identified a product that works reliably at 500ma, please let me know the name of the product, and also the name of your supplier. Thanks in advance! Jarrett -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by HYPERLINK "http://www.mailscanner.info/"MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1659 - Release Date: 9/8/2008 7:01 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1659 - Release Date: 9/8/2008 7:01 AM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080909/4254be55/attachment-0001.htm From jdcluster at optonline.net Tue Sep 9 19:17:26 2008 From: jdcluster at optonline.net (JDcluster) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:17:26 -0400 Subject: [ARTS] Need Recommendation For E-matches In 1-Battery Configuration References: <6A4E9D4D2E587A48B8EFEDC38217150A0349C06C@mse15be2.mse15.exchange.ms> Message-ID: <004d01c912eb$5ea4e850$6501a8c0@JDkluster3500> I've just switched to a rechargeable NiMH batteries. They are rated at 230 mAh & 9.6 volts. They are a little pricey a $10.00 a pop plus you'll need a special charger to full charge them properly. You can find them here: http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/-maha-powerex-96-volt-230mah-nimh-rechargeable-batterybr1-battery-pack-p-505.html?SP_id=&osCsid=kc1rincbrjkhc22lpqggb9vbo4 JD ----- Original Message ----- From: Jarrett Gorin, AICP To: arts at lokiresearch.com Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 3:57 PM Subject: [ARTS] Need Recommendation For E-matches In 1-Battery Configuration Hi, I wanted to find out from other ARTS2 users what E-matches work best when you are flying in a 1-battery configuration and w/o bypassing the current limiter. I already know that it is better to fly with two batteries etc. Please don't repond with recommendations to "just hook up a 2nd battery, as that is not what I am asking about here. I know how to set things up with 2 batteries, but I have some cases where size constraints don't allow for that, and I need to fly with just one. I am having an impossible time finding an E-match or other charge initiator that will fire reliably on the 500ma current that the ARTS2 supplies in 1-battery mode. M-tek E-matches from MJG say they fire on a "minimum" current of 500ma but that sounds dicey to me.like they might not fire. If there are any other users out there who have flown it this way, and identified a product that works reliably at 500ma, please let me know the name of the product, and also the name of your supplier. Thanks in advance! Jarrett ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ ARTS mailing list ARTS at lokiresearch.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080909/dcdf3bc4/attachment.htm From jeffshort2004 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 9 19:53:22 2008 From: jeffshort2004 at yahoo.com (Jeff Short) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [ARTS] Need Recommendation For E-matches In 1-Battery Configuration In-Reply-To: <004d01c912eb$5ea4e850$6501a8c0@JDkluster3500> Message-ID: <446231.67621.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I use these with my ARTS (original not ARTS2) and they work GREAT! The only Amp meter I have tops out at 10A and these babies peg the meter. Best alkaline I ever found taped out at less than 3A. I have 4 of the 200ma versions that I have used for over 2 years. I just bought a set of 4 of the 230ma ones and have flown them 3 or 4 times so far. Note: I purchase all my rechargeables from thomasdistributing.com and highly recommend them. I have been very happy with the MAHA brand (AA, AAA, 9V) but I have had mixed results with other brands. Jeff --- On Tue, 9/9/08, JDcluster wrote: > From: JDcluster > Subject: Re: [ARTS] Need Recommendation For E-matches In 1-Battery Configuration > To: "Jarrett Gorin, AICP" > Cc: arts at lokiresearch.com > Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 9:17 PM > I've just switched to a rechargeable NiMH batteries. > They are rated at 230 mAh & 9.6 volts. They are a > little pricey a $10.00 a pop > plus you'll need a special charger to full charge them > properly. > You can find them here: > > > http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/-maha-powerex-96-volt-230mah-nimh-rechargeable-batterybr1-battery-pack-p-505.html?SP_id=&osCsid=kc1rincbrjkhc22lpqggb9vbo4 > > > > JD > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jarrett Gorin, AICP > To: arts at lokiresearch.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 3:57 PM > Subject: [ARTS] Need Recommendation For E-matches In > 1-Battery Configuration > > > Hi, > > > > I wanted to find out from other ARTS2 users what > E-matches work best when you are flying in a 1-battery > configuration and w/o bypassing the current limiter. > > > > I already know that it is better to fly with two > batteries etc. Please don't repond with recommendations > to "just hook up a 2nd battery, as that is not what I > am asking about here. I know how to set things up with 2 > batteries, but I have some cases where size constraints > don't allow for that, and I need to fly with just one. > > > > I am having an impossible time finding an E-match or > other charge initiator that will fire reliably on the 500ma > current that the ARTS2 supplies in 1-battery mode. M-tek > E-matches from MJG say they fire on a "minimum" > current of 500ma but that sounds dicey to me.like they might > not fire. If there are any other users out there who have > flown it this way, and identified a product that works > reliably at 500ma, please let me know the name of the > product, and also the name of your supplier. > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Jarrett > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > ARTS mailing list > ARTS at lokiresearch.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts > _______________________________________________ > ARTS mailing list > ARTS at lokiresearch.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts From jyawn at sfcc.net Tue Sep 9 20:41:47 2008 From: jyawn at sfcc.net (James Yawn) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:41:47 -0400 Subject: [ARTS] Need Recommendation For E-matches In 1-Battery Configuration In-Reply-To: <003b01c912c2$c2a728a0$2d1ecac6@CADDANCE> References: <003b01c912c2$c2a728a0$2d1ecac6@CADDANCE> Message-ID: <48C741FB.7030909@sfcc.net> I find that Christmas-tree bulbs fire reliably on a single-battery ARTS. http://www.jamesyawn.net/ignitors/jimmyfire/ Lately, I've been dipping the base with epoxy to support the tiny lead wires. Jimmy Yawn jyawn at sfcc.net Bob and Ann Yanecek wrote: > > I see they call out 500ma as the minimum all-fire current (i.e. every > match should fire at or below 500ma). > > Though they also ?recommend? 750ma minimum firing current so perhaps > the 500ma specification really indicates something less than 100% all > fire? > > > > What about running 1 battery in 2-battery mode and accept the risk of > brown out on the computer end? > > > > Bob Yanecek > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com > [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] *On Behalf Of *Jarrett Gorin, AICP > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:57 PM > *To:* arts at lokiresearch.com > *Subject:* [ARTS] Need Recommendation For E-matches In 1-Battery > Configuration > > > > Hi, > > > > I wanted to find out from other ARTS2 users what E-matches work best > when you are flying in a 1-battery configuration and w/o bypassing the > current limiter. > > > > I already know that it is better to fly with two batteries etc. > Please don?t repond with recommendations to ?just hook up a 2^nd > battery, as that is not what I am asking about here. I know how to > set things up with 2 batteries, but I have some cases where size > constraints don?t allow for that, and I need to fly with just one. > > > > I am having an impossible time finding an E-match or other charge > initiator that will fire reliably on the 500ma current that the ARTS2 > supplies in 1-battery mode. M-tek E-matches from MJG say they fire on > a ?minimum? current of 500ma but that sounds dicey to me?like they > might not fire. If there are any other users out there who have flown > it this way, and identified a product that works reliably at 500ma, > please let me know the name of the product, and also the name of your > supplier. > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Jarrett > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1659 - Release Date: > 9/8/2008 7:01 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1659 - Release Date: > 9/8/2008 7:01 AM > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ARTS mailing list > ARTS at lokiresearch.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.16/1652 - Release Date: 9/4/2008 6:54 PM > From jeff at lokiresearch.com Tue Sep 9 20:58:19 2008 From: jeff at lokiresearch.com (Jeff Taylor) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:58:19 -0400 Subject: [ARTS] Need Recommendation For E-matches In 1-Battery Configuration In-Reply-To: <6A4E9D4D2E587A48B8EFEDC38217150A0349C06C@mse15be2.mse15.exchange.ms> References: <6A4E9D4D2E587A48B8EFEDC38217150A0349C06C@mse15be2.mse15.exchange.ms> Message-ID: <48C745DB.80605@lokiresearch.com> Jarrett Gorin, AICP wrote: > > I am having an impossible time finding an E-match or other charge > initiator that will fire reliably on the 500ma current that the ARTS2 > supplies in 1-battery mode. M-tek E-matches from MJG say they fire on > a ?minimum? current of 500ma but that sounds dicey to me?like they > might not fire. If there are any other users out there who have flown > it this way, and identified a product that works reliably at 500ma, > please let me know the name of the product, and also the name of your > supplier. > > Thanks in advance! > > Jarrett > As others have pointed out, there are batteries that can supply more current. However, to use them with an ARTS2, you'll need to defeat the current limiter. This is easy to do, just set the ARTS2 up to run in two battery mode, and then wire the one battery to both of the power inputs (BAT and PBAT). -JT From rbazinet at charter.net Sun Sep 14 08:47:53 2008 From: rbazinet at charter.net (Rob Bazinet) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:47:53 -0400 Subject: [ARTS] Data Analyzer on Vista 64 Message-ID: <012f01c91681$3fd9cb40$bf8d61c0$@net> Hi guys, I know this was a discussion in the past but can't recall the solution. I have Vista 64 and DA 1.61. The setup I have won't install on 64 bit, so I downloaded the 64-bit version but there is no setup in the zip file, just a bunch of files which appears to be used as if it is already installed. I tried running the .exe and get an error about one of the dll's is not found. My guess I need to register the dll in the registry but before I played those games I wanted to see if there was a 64-bit setup.exe around. Thanks, Rob Bazinet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080914/8b9e5a8b/attachment.htm From jarrett.gorin at centerpointdevelopmentpartners.com Sun Sep 14 14:15:35 2008 From: jarrett.gorin at centerpointdevelopmentpartners.com (Jarrett Gorin, AICP) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:15:35 -0400 Subject: [ARTS] Data Analyzer on Vista 64 Message-ID: <6A4E9D4D2E587A48B8EFEDC38217150A034F2193@mse15be2.mse15.exchange.ms> Hi Rob, The solution is very easy. Just go to the directory that has all those DataAnalyzer files in it. There, you will see a file called "cc3250.dll" (without the quotes of course. Simply rename this file to "cc3250mt.dll" and your existing installation will work perfectly. The current problem with 64-bit systems is that right now, there is only a 32-bit setup.exe file. All it does is extract the files and put them into the directory in the "Programs" folder. You already have this folder (you just downloaded an already-extracted version of it). For some reason, in that version, the cc3250 file has been renamed. Changing the name back to "cc3250mt.dll" solves the problem 100%. I have a fully functional version of DA 1.61 on my Vista Business x64 system and this was all I needed to do to get it running. Erik will be fixing the file name in the downloadable zip file soon. In the meantime, this fix works perfectly. Good luck. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080914/8fac9469/attachment.htm From rbazinet at charter.net Sun Sep 14 14:20:17 2008 From: rbazinet at charter.net (Rob Bazinet) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:20:17 -0400 Subject: [ARTS] Data Analyzer on Vista 64 In-Reply-To: <6A4E9D4D2E587A48B8EFEDC38217150A034F2193@mse15be2.mse15.exchange.ms> References: <6A4E9D4D2E587A48B8EFEDC38217150A034F2193@mse15be2.mse15.exchange.ms> Message-ID: <015001c916af$afe15d80$0fa41880$@net> Jarrett, Great, thanks. The solution works perfectly. -Rob From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] On Behalf Of Jarrett Gorin, AICP Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:16 PM To: arts at lokiresearch.com Subject: [ARTS] Data Analyzer on Vista 64 Hi Rob, The solution is very easy. Just go to the directory that has all those DataAnalyzer files in it. There, you will see a file called "cc3250.dll" (without the quotes of course. Simply rename this file to "cc3250mt.dll" and your existing installation will work perfectly. The current problem with 64-bit systems is that right now, there is only a 32-bit setup.exe file. All it does is extract the files and put them into the directory in the "Programs" folder. You already have this folder (you just downloaded an already-extracted version of it). For some reason, in that version, the cc3250 file has been renamed. Changing the name back to "cc3250mt.dll" solves the problem 100%. I have a fully functional version of DA 1.61 on my Vista Business x64 system and this was all I needed to do to get it running. Erik will be fixing the file name in the downloadable zip file soon. In the meantime, this fix works perfectly. Good luck. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080914/6d1f507e/attachment.htm From ehall at ozarkaerospace.com Mon Sep 15 16:35:04 2008 From: ehall at ozarkaerospace.com (Erik Hall) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:35:04 -0400 Subject: [ARTS] Data Analyzer on Vista 64 In-Reply-To: <015001c916af$afe15d80$0fa41880$@net> References: <6A4E9D4D2E587A48B8EFEDC38217150A034F2193@mse15be2.mse15.exchange.ms> <015001c916af$afe15d80$0fa41880$@net> Message-ID: Rob, Hmmmmmm.I thought I fixed this... I'll go fix it again. =) -Erik _____ From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] On Behalf Of Rob Bazinet Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:20 PM To: 'Jarrett Gorin, AICP'; arts at lokiresearch.com Subject: Re: [ARTS] Data Analyzer on Vista 64 Jarrett, Great, thanks. The solution works perfectly. -Rob From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] On Behalf Of Jarrett Gorin, AICP Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:16 PM To: arts at lokiresearch.com Subject: [ARTS] Data Analyzer on Vista 64 Hi Rob, The solution is very easy. Just go to the directory that has all those DataAnalyzer files in it. There, you will see a file called "cc3250.dll" (without the quotes of course. Simply rename this file to "cc3250mt.dll" and your existing installation will work perfectly. The current problem with 64-bit systems is that right now, there is only a 32-bit setup.exe file. All it does is extract the files and put them into the directory in the "Programs" folder. You already have this folder (you just downloaded an already-extracted version of it). For some reason, in that version, the cc3250 file has been renamed. Changing the name back to "cc3250mt.dll" solves the problem 100%. I have a fully functional version of DA 1.61 on my Vista Business x64 system and this was all I needed to do to get it running. Erik will be fixing the file name in the downloadable zip file soon. In the meantime, this fix works perfectly. Good luck. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080915/ea66d030/attachment.htm From highflyingdave at hotmail.com Sat Sep 20 18:34:22 2008 From: highflyingdave at hotmail.com (David Angel) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:34:22 -0500 Subject: [ARTS] Question Message-ID: Hi, I just bought a new ARTS2. For my first flight, would you recommend changing the altimeter settings or go with the factory-configured flight profile? Also, where is the mach delay? I'm flying a 3" carbon minimum diameter on a M1315, and setting the mach delay would be pretty important! Also, will the unit only transfer data via the data transfer after a flight? I had trouble connecting the unit to my computer - my computer wouldn't read the unit. I checked and rechecked my connections, but no luck. If you have any first-time user advise, please pass along. Thanks, David Angel TRA #10983 L3 _________________________________________________________________ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn ?10 hidden secrets? from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080920/6a062f55/attachment.htm From grippo at charter.net Sun Sep 21 00:03:10 2008 From: grippo at charter.net (Andrew Grippo) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 0:03:10 -0700 Subject: [ARTS] Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080921030310.7U0ZC.113408.root@mp15> Hi David, Congratulations on buying one of the finest flight computers on the market. As you use and become more familiar with the unit you'll be assured you're money was well spent. I am so completely confident with mine that it has become the first choice for every high performance flight I do. My altimeter came with factory settings on profile one that I still use for simple dual deployment operations. The drogue charge is set to go off at apogee and the main is set to either 800' or 1,000'. I don't remember which but it works fine for me. You don't have to worry about setting a mach delay because the unit doesn't utilize one. It handles the mach transition without it and works well. I've had my unit to mach 2 several times and other flyers have gone much faster without any issues. As far as the lack of connectivity, most likely you will have to make sure the program is set to the same com port as the computer is recognizing your unit on. If the computer is able to "see" the unit on com 2 and the program is set to com 1 then you won't connect. You may have to go into the .inf settings and change the com port the program is set to recognize. To find out which com port your computer is seeing the unit on you will have to go into the Windows "Device Manager" and look at which com port your unit is on and then set your program to match. To prevent new user blues - Make sure you connect and power up your unit in the PRECISE order set out in the manual or after your flight you will lose your saved data. Good Luck with your flight, it's gonna be a thrill. Andrew Grippo ---- David Angel wrote: ============= Hi, I just bought a new ARTS2. For my first flight, would you recommend changing the altimeter settings or go with the factory-configured flight profile? Also, where is the mach delay? I'm flying a 3" carbon minimum diameter on a M1315, and setting the mach delay would be pretty important! Also, will the unit only transfer data via the data transfer after a flight? I had trouble connecting the unit to my computer - my computer wouldn't read the unit. I checked and rechecked my connections, but no luck. If you have any first-time user advise, please pass along. Thanks, David Angel TRA #10983 L3 _________________________________________________________________ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn ?10 hidden secrets? from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 From jeff at lokiresearch.com Sun Sep 21 13:23:17 2008 From: jeff at lokiresearch.com (Jeff Taylor) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:23:17 -0400 Subject: [ARTS] Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48D6AD35.3000405@lokiresearch.com> David Angel wrote: > Hi, > > I just bought a new ARTS2. For my first flight, would you recommend > changing the altimeter settings or go with the factory-configured > flight profile? For most flights, there is no need to change anything. > Also, where is the mach delay? I'm flying a 3" carbon minimum diameter > on a M1315, and setting the mach delay would be pretty important! The ARTS2 uses integrated acceleration to determine apogee, thus it not susceptible to pressure spikes associated with mach transitions. In other words, there is no "mach delay" and with the ARTS you don't need one. > Also, will the unit only transfer data via the data transfer after a > flight? I had trouble connecting the unit to my computer - my computer > wouldn't read the unit. I checked and rechecked my connections, but no > luck. You should be able to communicate with your ARTS even before flying it. Follow the directions for connecting the ARTS and powering it up carefully. Are you getting any error messages? My best advice for new ARTS users is to follow the instructions carefully, don't make any assumptions about how the ARTS works based on experience with other altimeters, and finally ask questions here. Good luck! -Jeff Taylor From jarrett.gorin at centerpointdevelopmentpartners.com Mon Sep 22 10:42:40 2008 From: jarrett.gorin at centerpointdevelopmentpartners.com (Jarrett Gorin, AICP) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:42:40 -0400 Subject: [ARTS] Question Message-ID: <6A4E9D4D2E587A48B8EFEDC38217150A035BB203@mse15be2.mse15.exchange.ms> Hi Dave, Congrats on your ARTS2 purchase. It is a fantastic piece of hardware. To answer your question about Mach Delay, the ARTS2 doesn't have any setting for this because it doesn't need one. The trigger to put it into active flight operations and to correctly sense apogee is accelerometer based. Therefore, the shockwave produced by breaking Mach has no effect on the ARTS2 measurements. You can break Mach all you want and it will still perfectly sense apogee. Then on the way down, it uses the barometric altimeter. On the connection issue, check the COMM ports like the other users recommended, but if that doesn't work, it is possible you have a defective unit. You DO NOT have to have completed a flight in order to have 2-way data communication with your ARTS2. My first unit was missing a chip that correctly switched the COM port on the ARTS2 itself, so it could only send data downstream to the PC. You need to have 2-way data exchange in order for the ARTS2 to get out of flight mode and bnegin to be accessible via DataAnalyzer. Once you have your ARTS2 communicating with your PC, I STRONGLY ADVISE that you use the excellent diagnostic functions in DataAnalyzer to test-fire the ARTS2 in exactly the configuration in which you will be flying it (i.e. 1 or 2 battery, same type of E-matches) to ensure that it will trigger your intended ignition source. If you plan on flying with a single battery, then follow the manual instructions to bypass the current limiter. Finally, I would recommend that you send your ARTS2 along for a ride-along only flight in another rocket. After this flight, you will be able to download the data and confirm that all of the sensors are working, and that the ARTS2 is sending "fire" charges to both channels at the appropriate times during the flight (you don't actually need to hook up E-matches for this). DataAnalyzer provides very specific details about all of the critical flight events, so you will be able to see that everything is working perfectly before you use the ARTS 2 as an actual flight controller. I just stuck my ARTS2 in the payload bay of an Aerotech Arreaux and sent it up on a G77R with standard motor deployment to test this out. Good luck, and enjoy your new ARTS2. _________________________________________ Jarrett Gorin, AICP President Centerpoint Development Partners LLC 735 State Street, Suite 204 Santa Barbara, CA 93101-5502 (805) 966-3966 (805) 715-7005 FAX jarrett.gorin at centerpointdevelopmentpartners.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080922/4a6dd854/attachment.htm From acwhit at nc.rr.com Mon Sep 29 17:21:13 2008 From: acwhit at nc.rr.com (Alan Whitmore) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:21:13 -0400 Subject: [ARTS] changing sampling rate on ARTS2 Message-ID: <000b01c92292$72c45990$a95fb64c@alan4ee61c337d> I have an ARTS2 that I changed to 200 samples per second when I set it up after I got it. When I go to Altimeter, Configuration and look at the settings, it is set for 200 samples for second. The data are always delivered at 100 samples per second. Any ideas? Alan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080929/7cadd4b9/attachment.htm From ghuber at landacorp.com Mon Sep 29 19:45:03 2008 From: ghuber at landacorp.com (Geoff Huber) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:45:03 -0700 Subject: [ARTS] changing sampling rate on ARTS2 References: <000b01c92292$72c45990$a95fb64c@alan4ee61c337d> Message-ID: Placebo effect? -----Original Message----- From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com on behalf of Alan Whitmore Sent: Mon 9/29/2008 5:21 PM To: arts at lokiresearch.com Subject: [ARTS] changing sampling rate on ARTS2 I have an ARTS2 that I changed to 200 samples per second when I set it up after I got it. When I go to Altimeter, Configuration and look at the settings, it is set for 200 samples for second. The data are always delivered at 100 samples per second. Any ideas? Alan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080929/2e1da18d/attachment.htm From jarrett.gorin at centerpointdevelopmentpartners.com Tue Sep 30 12:19:03 2008 From: jarrett.gorin at centerpointdevelopmentpartners.com (Jarrett Gorin, AICP) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:19:03 -0400 Subject: [ARTS] changing sampling rate on ARTS2 Message-ID: <6A4E9D4D2E587A48B8EFEDC38217150A0366689E@mse15be2.mse15.exchange.ms> Are you remembering to save the changed data back to the altimeter? I always go through this procedure whenever I am going to change a setting: 1) Load from altimeter 2) confirm the setting that just loaded 3) change the setting (or leave it if it is already what I want) 4) save the setting back to the altimeter 5) Load the setting from the altimeter AGAIN to confirm that it now has my new setting changed. When you first open up DataAnalyzer, it has some default values for many of the settings , including sampling rate, populated into its parameter fields. When you do a load settings from altimeter command, it updates these to the current ones that are actually present on your altimeter. Try that and see if it works. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080930/08c9ab40/attachment.htm