From beharri at speakeasy.net Mon Mar 3 17:05:45 2008 From: beharri at speakeasy.net (Bruce E. Harris) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:05:45 -0500 Subject: [ARTS] Motor analysis with ARTS II Data Analyzer Message-ID: <47CCA069.1030106@speakeasy.net> I can not find any information about motor analysis in the Data Analyzer manual. Under the tab "Edit" "Flight Information" "motors", what is Case, ProType and Grain cfg (e.g. Bates?). Under "Tools" there is the Motor Analysis drop down. What info does it contain? I can not view it unless I put data in the "Flight Information", and I don't know what all data I need to put into Flight Information. Best Regards, Bruce -- Bruce E. Harris, MSgt, USAF, ret. TRA #10564 L2 MDRA #31 "If it ain't broke, your not trying" Red Green ____________________________________________________________________________ Tiger Envelopes warning: Anyone could have read this message. Stop snoops reading your email, for free forever. http://TigerPrivacy.com From ehall at ozarkaerospace.com Mon Mar 3 17:13:25 2008 From: ehall at ozarkaerospace.com (Erik Hall) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 20:13:25 -0500 Subject: [ARTS] Motor analysis with ARTS II Data Analyzer In-Reply-To: <47CCA069.1030106@speakeasy.net> References: <47CCA069.1030106@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <002b01c87d94$f2f2a840$6601a8c0@Ozark1> Bruce, You need to enter all of the data on the "Motor Analysis" page of the Flight Information, everything else is optional and only for your record keeping. The information on the Motors page is optional. Case would be the motor case used (eg 54-1200), ProType is Propellant Type (eg Blue, Red, Spitfire, etc.), and Grain cfg is Grain Configuration (eg Bates, Moon, Star, etc.). Hope this helps. Thanks, Erik > -----Original Message----- > From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] > On Behalf Of Bruce E. Harris > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:06 PM > To: ARTS > Subject: [ARTS] Motor analysis with ARTS II Data Analyzer > > I can not find any information about motor analysis in the Data Analyzer > manual. > > Under the tab "Edit" "Flight Information" "motors", what is Case, > ProType and Grain cfg (e.g. Bates?). > > Under "Tools" there is the Motor Analysis drop down. What info does it > contain? I can not view it unless I put data in the "Flight > Information", and I don't know what all data I need to put into Flight > Information. > > Best Regards, > > Bruce > > -- > > Bruce E. Harris, MSgt, USAF, ret. > TRA #10564 L2 > MDRA #31 > "If it ain't broke, your not trying" Red Green > > __________________________________________________________________________ > __ > Tiger Envelopes warning: Anyone could have read this message. > Stop snoops reading your email, for free forever. http://TigerPrivacy.com > _______________________________________________ > ARTS mailing list > ARTS at lokiresearch.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts From jmdubose2000 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 3 18:51:42 2008 From: jmdubose2000 at yahoo.com (Jonathan DuBose) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:51:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [ARTS] Mounting GPS Active Antenna Message-ID: <775347.40417.qm@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am curious as to how users are mounting the GPS Active antenna. My rocket is 3" diameter and am mounting the TX-900G only in the nose cone. Anyone with a good experience? Jonathan DuBose --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080303/738dcdd2/attachment.htm From jafrado at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 20:45:04 2008 From: jafrado at gmail.com (James Dougherty) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 20:45:04 -0800 Subject: [ARTS] Mounting GPS Active Antenna In-Reply-To: <775347.40417.qm@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <775347.40417.qm@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000501c87db2$a0d455e0$e27d01a0$@com> Hey Jonathan, You can mount it nose-up for best results. I've actually mounted mine nose-down in the nose-cone and got the same results, but then again, I have it in a 10" V2. Best thing to do is experiment since I've seen differences between large diameter and smaller diameter birds. Just my 2 cents; but if you mount it nose-up, you can't go wrong, even during recovery, the signals seem To bounce off the earth so you're ok there. -James From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan DuBose Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 6:52 PM To: arts at lokiresearch.com Subject: [ARTS] Mounting GPS Active Antenna I am curious as to how users are mounting the GPS Active antenna. My rocket is 3" diameter and am mounting the TX-900G only in the nose cone. Anyone with a good experience? Jonathan DuBose _____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080303/dc176325/attachment.htm From artupton at yahoo.com Tue Mar 4 09:12:51 2008 From: artupton at yahoo.com (art upton) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:12:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [ARTS] Mounting GPS Active Antenna In-Reply-To: <775347.40417.qm@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <583025.76727.qm@web63403.mail.re1.yahoo.com> HI Jonathan, I've mounted mine GPS mouse top sideways and have had great results. On large rockets I mounted the GPS mouse outside the Ebay and cover with duct tape to hold it on. On my 3" rocket I've flown it mounted in the nose GPS mouse top looking out the side, I flew the 3" rocket 4 times this way. My flights currently are 8 out of ten tracks with GPS loss only during thurst. 2 I've lost GPS track during violent ejections, but regained them 10 seconds later. These are the flights using the Ozark GPS and Black square GPS mouse antenna. Art --- Jonathan DuBose wrote: > I am curious as to how users are mounting the GPS > Active antenna. My rocket is 3" diameter and am > mounting the TX-900G only in the nose cone. Anyone > with a good experience? > > Jonathan DuBose > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.> _______________________________________________ > ARTS mailing list > ARTS at lokiresearch.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From md.wright at bell.ca Tue Mar 4 09:44:21 2008 From: md.wright at bell.ca (md.wright at bell.ca) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:44:21 -0500 Subject: [ARTS] Windows Mobile and Data Analyzer Message-ID: Is there any plans to make the data analyzer software compatible with Windows Mobile? It would be handy to be able to use my WM Pro equipped mobile phone to access my programming and download data in the field instead of lugging my laptop around. Mike Michael Wright Manager National SMB Sales Bell Distribution C 250.870.1596 F 250-870-8272 md.wright at bell.ca Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, copy or distribution is prohibited. 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Or is there a blootoof /zigbee/irda/a.n.other shortrange rf interface planned? Cheers Mike 8-{> > > > > Mike > > > > Michael Wright > Manager National SMB Sales > Bell Distribution > C 250.870.1596 > F 250-870-8272 > md.wright at bell.ca > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure, copy or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and > destroy all copies of the original message. > > > > From md.wright at bell.ca Tue Mar 4 15:59:53 2008 From: md.wright at bell.ca (md.wright at bell.ca) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:59:53 -0500 Subject: [ARTS] Windows Mobile and Data Analyzer In-Reply-To: <47CDD644.2614.31399196@mike.roberts.mikerobe.org> References: <47CDD644.2614.31399196@mike.roberts.mikerobe.org> Message-ID: They actually have a mini USB connector on most of them (HTC 5800, 6800 and Touch) and they come with an adaptor. Michael Wright Manager National SMB Sales Bell Distribution C 250.870.1596 F 250-870-8272 md.wright at bell.ca Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, copy or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] On Behalf Of Mike Roberts Sent: March 4, 2008 3:08 PM To: arts at lokiresearch.com Subject: Re: [ARTS] Windows Mobile and Data Analyzer > Is there any plans to make the data analyzer software compatible with > Windows Mobile? It would be handy to be able to use my WM Pro equipped > mobile phone to access my programming and download data in the field > instead of lugging my laptop around. Don't you need a serial / usb interface to talk to the ARTS? Don't know of too many mobiles with those interfaces onboard. Or is there a blootoof /zigbee/irda/a.n.other shortrange rf interface planned? Cheers Mike 8-{> > > > > Mike > > > > Michael Wright > Manager National SMB Sales > Bell Distribution > C 250.870.1596 > F 250-870-8272 > md.wright at bell.ca > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure, copy or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and > destroy all copies of the original message. > > > > _______________________________________________ ARTS mailing list ARTS at lokiresearch.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts From ehall at ozarkaerospace.com Tue Mar 4 16:02:55 2008 From: ehall at ozarkaerospace.com (Erik Hall) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:02:55 -0500 Subject: [ARTS] Windows Mobile and Data Analyzer In-Reply-To: References: <47CDD644.2614.31399196@mike.roberts.mikerobe.org> Message-ID: <003a01c87e54$43aa5c50$6601a8c0@Ozark1> Michael, Do you know id that USB will support a USB-Serial adapter? Thanks, Erik > -----Original Message----- > From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] > On Behalf Of md.wright at bell.ca > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:00 PM > To: mike.roberts at mikerobe.org; arts at lokiresearch.com > Subject: Re: [ARTS] Windows Mobile and Data Analyzer > > They actually have a mini USB connector on most of them (HTC 5800, 6800 > and Touch) and they come with an adaptor. > > Michael Wright > Manager National SMB Sales > Bell Distribution > C 250.870.1596 > F 250-870-8272 > md.wright at bell.ca > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure, copy or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and > destroy all copies of the original message. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com > [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] On Behalf Of Mike Roberts > Sent: March 4, 2008 3:08 PM > To: arts at lokiresearch.com > Subject: Re: [ARTS] Windows Mobile and Data Analyzer > > > Is there any plans to make the data analyzer software compatible with > > Windows Mobile? It would be handy to be able to use my WM Pro equipped > > mobile phone to access my programming and download data in the field > > instead of lugging my laptop around. > > Don't you need a serial / usb interface to talk to the ARTS? Don't > know of too many mobiles with those interfaces onboard. Or is there > a blootoof /zigbee/irda/a.n.other shortrange rf interface planned? > > Cheers Mike 8-{> > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > Michael Wright > > Manager National SMB Sales > > Bell Distribution > > C 250.870.1596 > > F 250-870-8272 > > md.wright at bell.ca > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any > attachments, > > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains > > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, > use, > > disclosure, copy or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the > > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and > > destroy all copies of the original message. > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ARTS mailing list > ARTS at lokiresearch.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts > _______________________________________________ > ARTS mailing list > ARTS at lokiresearch.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts From ehall at ozarkaerospace.com Tue Mar 4 16:01:45 2008 From: ehall at ozarkaerospace.com (Erik Hall) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:01:45 -0500 Subject: [ARTS] Windows Mobile and Data Analyzer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003501c87e54$1a1e86e0$6601a8c0@Ozark1> Mike, Just out of curiosity, what interfaces does your phone have? Probably BlueTooth, but does it also have support for USB or serial? Also, would you really need full DataAnalyzer functionality? Or would you be happy with a "stripped down" version? Maybe supporting only re-programming the flight profiles and displaying the flight data summary (max altitude, velocity, etc.) but not a graph? What do you all think is "necessary" in a DataAnalyzer Lite or Pocket DataAnalyzer running on a PDA or Windows Mobile cell phone? Thanks, Erik _____ From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] On Behalf Of md.wright at bell.ca Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:44 PM To: arts at lokiresearch.com Subject: [ARTS] Windows Mobile and Data Analyzer Is there any plans to make the data analyzer software compatible with Windows Mobile? It would be handy to be able to use my WM Pro equipped mobile phone to access my programming and download data in the field instead of lugging my laptop around. 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URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080304/d4c29df7/attachment.htm From md.wright at bell.ca Tue Mar 4 16:15:04 2008 From: md.wright at bell.ca (md.wright at bell.ca) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:15:04 -0500 Subject: [ARTS] Windows Mobile and Data Analyzer In-Reply-To: <003501c87e54$1a1e86e0$6601a8c0@Ozark1> References: <003501c87e54$1a1e86e0$6601a8c0@Ozark1> Message-ID: Bluetooth as well as USB, I am checking on the USB-Serial adaptor support with the manufacturer. The main things would be to be able to see the flight summary info, re-programming the flight profiles and downloading the whole file for graphing (but you wouldn't need to see it on the device, with the small screens that wouldn't be too beneficial anyways) so you could always e-mail it or download it to your PC if it really became necessary. For a Cert flight or an altitude/speed competition it would be great to plug directly into the rocket once it has landed and pull the info on right away, or be able to change the flight profile right on the pad if needed (can't think of an exact reason you would need to do that, but in the heat of the moment I'm sure we've all forgotten some stuff we shouldn't have forgotten.) Michael Wright Manager National SMB Sales Bell Distribution C 250.870.1596 F 250-870-8272 md.wright at bell.ca Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, copy or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ________________________________ From: Erik Hall [mailto:ehall at ozarkaerospace.com] Sent: March 4, 2008 4:02 PM To: arts at lokiresearch.com Cc: Wright, Michael (6001764) Subject: RE: [ARTS] Windows Mobile and Data Analyzer Mike, Just out of curiosity, what interfaces does your phone have? Probably BlueTooth, but does it also have support for USB or serial? Also, would you really need full DataAnalyzer functionality? Or would you be happy with a "stripped down" version? Maybe supporting only re-programming the flight profiles and displaying the flight data summary (max altitude, velocity, etc...) but not a graph? What do you all think is "necessary" in a DataAnalyzer Lite or Pocket DataAnalyzer running on a PDA or Windows Mobile cell phone? Thanks, Erik ________________________________ From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] On Behalf Of md.wright at bell.ca Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:44 PM To: arts at lokiresearch.com Subject: [ARTS] Windows Mobile and Data Analyzer Is there any plans to make the data analyzer software compatible with Windows Mobile? It would be handy to be able to use my WM Pro equipped mobile phone to access my programming and download data in the field instead of lugging my laptop around. Mike Michael Wright Manager National SMB Sales Bell Distribution C 250.870.1596 F 250-870-8272 md.wright at bell.ca Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, copy or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080304/7c35dad5/attachment-0001.htm From mike.roberts at mikerobe.org Tue Mar 4 16:16:46 2008 From: mike.roberts at mikerobe.org (Mike Roberts) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:16:46 -0000 Subject: [ARTS] Windows Mobile and Data Analyzer In-Reply-To: References: , <47CDD644.2614.31399196@mike.roberts.mikerobe.org>, Message-ID: <47CDE66E.24237.3178B661@mike.roberts.mikerobe.org> > They actually have a mini USB connector on most of them (HTC 5800, 6800 > and Touch) and they come with an adaptor. Ah yes they may well do but there are "server" and "client" connectors / connections (forget the correct terminology). Consider your PC as a "sevrer" type device and a memory stick or hard drive or printer or hub or digital camera as a "client" device. To the best of my knowledge phones and many PDAs (for example my Sony Clie) and the other examples above fall in to the latter category. My clie has a usb socket but I cant plug a memory stick or a usb serial adaptor in to it, even with an adaptor cable. It is the wrong end of the interface if you see what I mean. Maybe your phone is different but I suspect it wont be. Unless maybe it has 2 USB ports? Mike 8-{> > > Michael Wright > Manager National SMB Sales > Bell Distribution > C 250.870.1596 > F 250-870-8272 > md.wright at bell.ca > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure, copy or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and > destroy all copies of the original message. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com > [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] On Behalf Of Mike Roberts > Sent: March 4, 2008 3:08 PM > To: arts at lokiresearch.com > Subject: Re: [ARTS] Windows Mobile and Data Analyzer > > > Is there any plans to make the data analyzer software compatible with > > Windows Mobile? It would be handy to be able to use my WM Pro equipped > > mobile phone to access my programming and download data in the field > > instead of lugging my laptop around. > > Don't you need a serial / usb interface to talk to the ARTS? Don't > know of too many mobiles with those interfaces onboard. Or is there > a blootoof /zigbee/irda/a.n.other shortrange rf interface planned? > > Cheers Mike 8-{> > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > Michael Wright > > Manager National SMB Sales > > Bell Distribution > > C 250.870.1596 > > F 250-870-8272 > > md.wright at bell.ca > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any > attachments, > > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains > > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, > use, > > disclosure, copy or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the > > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and > > destroy all copies of the original message. > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ARTS mailing list > ARTS at lokiresearch.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.4/1310 - Release Date: 04/03/2008 08:35 > From md.wright at bell.ca Tue Mar 4 16:20:55 2008 From: md.wright at bell.ca (md.wright at bell.ca) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:20:55 -0500 Subject: [ARTS] Windows Mobile and Data Analyzer In-Reply-To: <47CDE66E.24237.3178B661@mike.roberts.mikerobe.org> References: , <47CDD644.2614.31399196@mike.roberts.mikerobe.org>, <47CDE66E.24237.3178B661@mike.roberts.mikerobe.org> Message-ID: Using the mini USB you can do both functions, upload and download. You can also put applications onto the mini SD memory card (it comes with a 512MB card and can handle up to a 2GB card). They've come a long ways in a short time. We sell a ton of them for Corporate applications and as replacements for Blackberry's to people who don't like the fact that the Blackberry OS is limited in applications Vs Windows. Having said that, I still carry my 8830 Blackberry and use it for all our secure corporate applications. Windows is still Windows! :-) Michael Wright Manager National SMB Sales Bell Distribution C 250.870.1596 F 250-870-8272 md.wright at bell.ca Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, copy or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- From: Mike Roberts [mailto:mike.roberts at mikerobe.org] Sent: March 4, 2008 4:17 PM To: Wright, Michael (6001764); arts at lokiresearch.com Subject: RE: [ARTS] Windows Mobile and Data Analyzer > They actually have a mini USB connector on most of them (HTC 5800, 6800 > and Touch) and they come with an adaptor. Ah yes they may well do but there are "server" and "client" connectors / connections (forget the correct terminology). Consider your PC as a "sevrer" type device and a memory stick or hard drive or printer or hub or digital camera as a "client" device. To the best of my knowledge phones and many PDAs (for example my Sony Clie) and the other examples above fall in to the latter category. My clie has a usb socket but I cant plug a memory stick or a usb serial adaptor in to it, even with an adaptor cable. It is the wrong end of the interface if you see what I mean. Maybe your phone is different but I suspect it wont be. Unless maybe it has 2 USB ports? Mike 8-{> > > Michael Wright > Manager National SMB Sales > Bell Distribution > C 250.870.1596 > F 250-870-8272 > md.wright at bell.ca > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure, copy or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and > destroy all copies of the original message. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com > [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] On Behalf Of Mike Roberts > Sent: March 4, 2008 3:08 PM > To: arts at lokiresearch.com > Subject: Re: [ARTS] Windows Mobile and Data Analyzer > > > Is there any plans to make the data analyzer software compatible with > > Windows Mobile? It would be handy to be able to use my WM Pro equipped > > mobile phone to access my programming and download data in the field > > instead of lugging my laptop around. > > Don't you need a serial / usb interface to talk to the ARTS? Don't > know of too many mobiles with those interfaces onboard. Or is there > a blootoof /zigbee/irda/a.n.other shortrange rf interface planned? > > Cheers Mike 8-{> > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > Michael Wright > > Manager National SMB Sales > > Bell Distribution > > C 250.870.1596 > > F 250-870-8272 > > md.wright at bell.ca > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any > attachments, > > is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains > > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, > use, > > disclosure, copy or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the > > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and > > destroy all copies of the original message. > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ARTS mailing list > ARTS at lokiresearch.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.4/1310 - Release Date: 04/03/2008 08:35 > From beharri at speakeasy.net Thu Mar 6 10:53:31 2008 From: beharri at speakeasy.net (Bruce E. Harris) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:53:31 -0500 Subject: [ARTS] power supply Message-ID: <47D03DAB.5050603@speakeasy.net> HI, I am wondering if batteries other then a 9 volt would work ok. I am looking at 12 volt A23 and various rechargeable, such as NiMH or Lithium Ion. Or does anyone have another suggestion? Best Regards, Bruce -- Bruce E. Harris, MSgt, USAF, ret. TRA #10564 L2 MDRA #31 "If it ain't broke, your not trying" Red Green ____________________________________________________________________________ Tiger Envelopes warning: Anyone could have read this message. Stop snoops reading your email, for free forever. http://TigerPrivacy.com From Steven.Sawyer at ge.com Thu Mar 6 11:33:25 2008 From: Steven.Sawyer at ge.com (Sawyer, Steven D. (GE Infra, Energy)) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 14:33:25 -0500 Subject: [ARTS] power supply In-Reply-To: <47D03DAB.5050603@speakeasy.net> References: <47D03DAB.5050603@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: I would like to verify this again also. I presently run mine with NiMH (9.6V) - works well and I understand ratings of all ARTS2 components are compatible. I plan to go to Lithium Polymer (11.1V). Steve -----Original Message----- From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] On Behalf Of Bruce E. Harris Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 10:54 AM To: ARTS Subject: [ARTS] power supply HI, I am wondering if batteries other then a 9 volt would work ok. I am looking at 12 volt A23 and various rechargeable, such as NiMH or Lithium Ion. Or does anyone have another suggestion? Best Regards, Bruce -- Bruce E. Harris, MSgt, USAF, ret. TRA #10564 L2 MDRA #31 "If it ain't broke, your not trying" Red Green ________________________________________________________________________ ____ Tiger Envelopes warning: Anyone could have read this message. Stop snoops reading your email, for free forever. http://TigerPrivacy.com _______________________________________________ ARTS mailing list ARTS at lokiresearch.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts From artupton at yahoo.com Thu Mar 6 12:27:23 2008 From: artupton at yahoo.com (art upton) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:27:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [ARTS] power supply In-Reply-To: <47D03DAB.5050603@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <741951.2535.qm@web63401.mail.re1.yahoo.com> A23s are not good batteries for any altimeter IMHO. Use 6 SR44s or 6 Energizer 357s silver oxide batteries since they can output good current flow. My last 54mm ARTS flight I used two sets of these to power the ARTS http://cowboyrocketry.com/files/fc-arts357.jpg http://cowboyrocketry.com/files/fc-artssled.jpg Here is what a 38mm dart on Two A23s looks like. http://k8xg.com/files/playadart.jpg I had shorted out my 6 357s pack on the playa, and the only batteries to be found on EX day were two A23s. We hooked them up in parralle. We had power all the way to the ground, but not enough current to fire the e-matches. Art Upton --- "Bruce E. Harris" wrote: > HI, > > I am wondering if batteries other then a 9 volt > would work ok. I am > looking at 12 volt A23 and various rechargeable, > such as NiMH or > Lithium Ion. Or does anyone have another suggestion? > > Best Regards, > > Bruce > > -- > > Bruce E. Harris, MSgt, USAF, ret. > TRA #10564 L2 > MDRA #31 > "If it ain't broke, your not trying" Red Green > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > Tiger Envelopes warning: Anyone could have read this > message. > Stop snoops reading your email, for free forever. > http://TigerPrivacy.com > _______________________________________________ > ARTS mailing list > ARTS at lokiresearch.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From arnold.roquerre at verizon.net Thu Mar 6 12:47:57 2008 From: arnold.roquerre at verizon.net (Arnold Roquerre) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:47:57 -0500 Subject: [ARTS] power supply In-Reply-To: <741951.2535.qm@web63401.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <47D03DAB.5050603@speakeasy.net> <741951.2535.qm@web63401.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004801c87fcb$5cba9700$6801a8c0@AMTRHome> An A23 is rated at a capacity of 38mAh. This works fine for the Adept altimeters which use very little current. I believe the ARTS uses more current than the Adept altimeters. -----Original Message----- From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] On Behalf Of art upton Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:27 PM To: Bruce E. Harris; ARTS Subject: Re: [ARTS] power supply A23s are not good batteries for any altimeter IMHO. Use 6 SR44s or 6 Energizer 357s silver oxide batteries since they can output good current flow. My last 54mm ARTS flight I used two sets of these to power the ARTS http://cowboyrocketry.com/files/fc-arts357.jpg http://cowboyrocketry.com/files/fc-artssled.jpg Here is what a 38mm dart on Two A23s looks like. http://k8xg.com/files/playadart.jpg I had shorted out my 6 357s pack on the playa, and the only batteries to be found on EX day were two A23s. We hooked them up in parralle. We had power all the way to the ground, but not enough current to fire the e-matches. Art Upton --- "Bruce E. Harris" wrote: > HI, > > I am wondering if batteries other then a 9 volt > would work ok. I am > looking at 12 volt A23 and various rechargeable, > such as NiMH or > Lithium Ion. Or does anyone have another suggestion? > > Best Regards, > > Bruce > > -- > > Bruce E. Harris, MSgt, USAF, ret. > TRA #10564 L2 > MDRA #31 > "If it ain't broke, your not trying" Red Green > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > Tiger Envelopes warning: Anyone could have read this > message. > Stop snoops reading your email, for free forever. > http://TigerPrivacy.com > _______________________________________________ > ARTS mailing list > ARTS at lokiresearch.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping _______________________________________________ ARTS mailing list ARTS at lokiresearch.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts From ehall at ozarkaerospace.com Thu Mar 6 16:14:36 2008 From: ehall at ozarkaerospace.com (Erik Hall) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 19:14:36 -0500 Subject: [ARTS] power supply In-Reply-To: <47D03DAB.5050603@speakeasy.net> References: <47D03DAB.5050603@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <002401c87fe8$3a32ff20$6601a8c0@Ozark1> Bruce, If I don't use a standard 9v battery, then I usually use those 9.6v RC Car battery packs from Radio Shack. Lots of current, and rechargeable. I also use the same ones for the telem system. Voltage-wise, the ARTS2 can run on anything from about 6.2v up to 14v. It draws about 80mA during flight, when running the Flash memory, sensors, etc. This, of course, does NOT include the current to the igniters. You need a battery which can supply a large amount of current for them. Hope this helps! Thanks, Erik > -----Original Message----- > From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] > On Behalf Of Bruce E. Harris > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:54 PM > To: ARTS > Subject: [ARTS] power supply > > HI, > > I am wondering if batteries other then a 9 volt would work ok. I am > looking at 12 volt A23 and various rechargeable, such as NiMH or > Lithium Ion. Or does anyone have another suggestion? > > Best Regards, > > Bruce > > -- > > Bruce E. Harris, MSgt, USAF, ret. > TRA #10564 L2 > MDRA #31 > "If it ain't broke, your not trying" Red Green > > __________________________________________________________________________ > __ > Tiger Envelopes warning: Anyone could have read this message. > Stop snoops reading your email, for free forever. http://TigerPrivacy.com > _______________________________________________ > ARTS mailing list > ARTS at lokiresearch.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts From jeffshort2004 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 8 09:16:47 2008 From: jeffshort2004 at yahoo.com (Jeff Short) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 09:16:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [ARTS] power supply In-Reply-To: <47D03DAB.5050603@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <442027.73516.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I use NiMH 9v batteries from Maha. They have a true 9.6v battery that works GREAT. I buy them from thomasdistributing.com. The part number for the ones I use is : MH-96V230. Jeff --- "Bruce E. Harris" wrote: > HI, > > I am wondering if batteries other then a 9 volt would work ok. > I am > looking at 12 volt A23 and various rechargeable, such as NiMH > or > Lithium Ion. Or does anyone have another suggestion? > > Best Regards, > > Bruce > > -- > > Bruce E. Harris, MSgt, USAF, ret. > TRA #10564 L2 > MDRA #31 > "If it ain't broke, your not trying" Red Green > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > Tiger Envelopes warning: Anyone could have read this message. > Stop snoops reading your email, for free forever. > http://TigerPrivacy.com > _______________________________________________ > ARTS mailing list > ARTS at lokiresearch.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From md.wright at bell.ca Mon Mar 10 08:16:33 2008 From: md.wright at bell.ca (md.wright at bell.ca) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:16:33 -0400 Subject: [ARTS] ARTS 1 G capability Message-ID: Two things; 1: I found out that the HTC series of devices are not usb-serial adaptor capable :-( 2: Does anyone know what the G rating of the ART V1 is? Thanks, Mike Michael Wright Manager National SMB Sales Bell Distribution C 250.870.1596 F 250-870-8272 md.wright at bell.ca Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, copy or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080310/1e9f58b5/attachment.htm From mike.roberts at mikerobe.org Mon Mar 10 15:21:49 2008 From: mike.roberts at mikerobe.org (Mike Roberts) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:21:49 -0000 Subject: [ARTS] ARTS 1 G capability In-Reply-To: <003401c882fa$968b5e10$6601a8c0@Ozark1> References: , <003401c882fa$968b5e10$6601a8c0@Ozark1> Message-ID: <47D5B47D.14479.1003E4A1@mike.roberts.mikerobe.org> > 1 - What are the "HTC series of devices"? A family of Win Mobile mobile phone / PDAs http://www.htc.com/www/default.aspx Cheers Mike 8-{> > > > > 2 - The ARTS1 is +/- 50g. > > > > Thanks, > > Erik > > > > > > _____ > > From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] > On Behalf Of md.wright at bell.ca > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:17 AM > To: arts at lokiresearch.com > Subject: [ARTS] ARTS 1 G capability > > > > Two things; > > > > 1: I found out that the HTC series of devices are not usb-serial adaptor > capable :-( > > > > 2: Does anyone know what the G rating of the ART V1 is? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike > > > > Michael Wright > Manager National SMB Sales > Bell Distribution > C 250.870.1596 > F 250-870-8272 > md.wright at bell.ca > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains confidential and > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, copy or > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original > message. > > > > From md.wright at bell.ca Mon Mar 10 15:34:55 2008 From: md.wright at bell.ca (md.wright at bell.ca) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:34:55 -0400 Subject: [ARTS] ARTS 1 G capability In-Reply-To: <003401c882fa$968b5e10$6601a8c0@Ozark1> References: <003401c882fa$968b5e10$6601a8c0@Ozark1> Message-ID: HTC is the Windows Mobile Pro PDA/Phones I mentioned in an earlier posting. Thanks for the 'G' info. Michael Wright Manager National SMB Sales Bell Distribution C 250.870.1596 F 250-870-8272 md.wright at bell.ca Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, copy or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ________________________________ From: Erik Hall [mailto:ehall at ozarkaerospace.com] Sent: March 10, 2008 3:04 PM To: arts at lokiresearch.com Cc: Wright, Michael (6001764) Subject: RE: [ARTS] ARTS 1 G capability Michael, 1 - What are the "HTC series of devices"? 2 - The ARTS1 is +/- 50g. Thanks, Erik ________________________________ From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com] On Behalf Of md.wright at bell.ca Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:17 AM To: arts at lokiresearch.com Subject: [ARTS] ARTS 1 G capability Two things; 1: I found out that the HTC series of devices are not usb-serial adaptor capable :-( 2: Does anyone know what the G rating of the ART V1 is? Thanks, Mike Michael Wright Manager National SMB Sales Bell Distribution C 250.870.1596 F 250-870-8272 md.wright at bell.ca Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, copy or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mx1.blastzone.com/pipermail/arts/attachments/20080310/ddaac8db/attachment-0001.htm From beharri at speakeasy.net Wed Mar 19 12:53:09 2008 From: beharri at speakeasy.net (Bruce E. Harris) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:53:09 -0400 Subject: [ARTS] flashbulbs Message-ID: <47E16F25.7050605@speakeasy.net> Is it safe to use flashbulbs with ARTS II? Will the continuity test fire a flashbulb or is that safe to do? Should I shunt the output during the test, and remove it just before launch? But if I shut, how can I be sure the flashbulb is good? With all the problems of getting e-matches, I am looking for alternatives. Best Regards, Bruce ____________________________________________________________________________ Tiger Envelopes warning: Anyone could have read this message. Stop snoops reading your email, for free forever. http://TigerPrivacy.com From dmlappert at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 13:06:12 2008 From: dmlappert at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?RGVubmlzIExhcHBlcnQ=?=) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:06:12 +0000 Subject: [ARTS] flashbulbs In-Reply-To: <47E16F25.7050605@speakeasy.net> References: <47E16F25.7050605@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <507990909-1205957174-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-271209707-@bxe148.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I have had good results with the ARTS (ARTS II same) and flash bulbs, I just don't trust the bulbs. After three failures (weren't all with the ARTS) I sold the last 100 I had and went to matches. Haven't had any failures since. Seems that sometimes after high thrust flights they shorted. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Bruce E. Harris" Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:53:09 To:ARTS Subject: [ARTS] flashbulbs Is it safe to use flashbulbs with ARTS II? Will the continuity test fire a flashbulb or is that safe to do? Should I shunt the output during the test, and remove it just before launch? But if I shut, how can I be sure the flashbulb is good? With all the problems of getting e-matches, I am looking for alternatives. Best Regards, Bruce ____________________________________________________________________________ Tiger Envelopes warning: Anyone could have read this message. Stop snoops reading your email, for free forever. http://TigerPrivacy.com _______________________________________________ ARTS mailing list ARTS at lokiresearch.com http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts From ozark at 4parkers.com Thu Mar 20 07:25:17 2008 From: ozark at 4parkers.com (Mike Parker) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:25:17 -0700 Subject: [ARTS] flashbulbs References: <47E16F25.7050605@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <001901c88a96$38997e10$6b0fa8c0@MikeLaptop> I've been really happy with e-match kits from Quickburst. Go to http://www.quickburst.net and click on the link for "E-Match Kits". If you e-mail them they will make them with longer leads as the normal 12" leads are not really what we want in most situations. Also, the dip kit makes enough dip for far more e-matches than come with the kit. You can buy extra pre-soldered e-match heads to solve this problem. The kit comes with 20 match heads but I think it makes enough dip for maybe 50 or so match heads. I make it on the kitchen table and the wife says, "oh, mixing up another batch of 'you don't wanna know', I see". Apparently the first time she asked me what I was making I must have said "you don't wanna know". Anyway, so far, they work very reliably, and yes, I've used them with ARTS as well as MAWD. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce E. Harris" To: "ARTS" Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:53 PM Subject: [ARTS] flashbulbs > Is it safe to use flashbulbs with ARTS II? Will the continuity test fire > a flashbulb or is that safe to do? Should I shunt the output during the > test, and remove it just before launch? But if I shut, how can I be sure > the flashbulb is good? > > With all the problems of getting e-matches, I am looking for alternatives. > > Best Regards, > > Bruce > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > Tiger Envelopes warning: Anyone could have read this message. > Stop snoops reading your email, for free forever. http://TigerPrivacy.com > _______________________________________________ > ARTS mailing list > ARTS at lokiresearch.com > http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts >