From acwhit at nc.rr.com  Mon Jul 14 17:20:49 2008
From: acwhit at nc.rr.com (Alan Whitmore)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:20:49 -0400
Subject: [ARTS] v. 1.3.1 and v.1.6.1
Message-ID: <000001c8e610$a31ea960$5d77b64c@alan4ee61c337d>

I asked this question a while back and got no answer, but I need to try
again to see if anyone has any experience to share about this problem.
Does anybody know whether the v. 1.6.1 Data Analyzer package will
download data from the original ARTS1?
 
            I ask because I have recently purchased an ARTS2 and
installed the v. 1.6.1 software on my computer, and now, neither the old
v. 1.3.1 software or the new software package will connect to a COM port
will unload data from either the ARTS or ARTS2.  Both software packages
inform me that they cannot connect to COM1 (or COM2, or COM3, or COM4)
as soon as I start them up.  I suspect that the two software packages
are somehow interfering with each other and I am inclined to uninstall
1.3.1 and re-install 1.6.1, but I would like some assurance that I could
get data off of my ARTS(1) if I do that.
 
Alan
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From jeff at lokiresearch.com  Mon Jul 14 17:31:23 2008
From: jeff at lokiresearch.com (Jeff Taylor)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:31:23 -0400
Subject: [ARTS] v. 1.3.1 and v.1.6.1
In-Reply-To: <000001c8e610$a31ea960$5d77b64c@alan4ee61c337d>
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From artupton at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 14 17:26:45 2008
From: artupton at yahoo.com (art upton)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:26:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ARTS] v. 1.3.1 and v.1.6.1
In-Reply-To: <000001c8e610$a31ea960$5d77b64c@alan4ee61c337d>
Message-ID: <509838.60100.qm@web63412.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hi Alan,

I can tell you I've downloaded data from a friends ARTS2 with 1.50 that came with my ARTS1 a few weeks ago.

I think your issue is a simple file edit/configuration and or a registry setting. Wish I could tell you more.

Art Upton


--- On Mon, 7/14/08, Alan Whitmore <acwhit at nc.rr.com> wrote:

> From: Alan Whitmore <acwhit at nc.rr.com>
> Subject: [ARTS] v. 1.3.1 and v.1.6.1
> To: arts at lokiresearch.com
> Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 8:20 PM
> I asked this question a while back and got no answer, but I
> need to try
> again to see if anyone has any experience to share about
> this problem.
> Does anybody know whether the v. 1.6.1 Data Analyzer
> package will
> download data from the original ARTS1?
>  
>             I ask because I have recently purchased an
> ARTS2 and
> installed the v. 1.6.1 software on my computer, and now,
> neither the old
> v. 1.3.1 software or the new software package will connect
> to a COM port
> will unload data from either the ARTS or ARTS2.  Both
> software packages
> inform me that they cannot connect to COM1 (or COM2, or
> COM3, or COM4)
> as soon as I start them up.  I suspect that the two
> software packages
> are somehow interfering with each other and I am inclined
> to uninstall
> 1.3.1 and re-install 1.6.1, but I would like some assurance
> that I could
> get data off of my ARTS(1) if I do that.
>  
> Alan_______________________________________________
> ARTS mailing list
> ARTS at lokiresearch.com
> http://mx1.blastzone.com/mailman/listinfo/arts


      

From ehall at ozarkaerospace.com  Tue Jul 15 18:24:32 2008
From: ehall at ozarkaerospace.com (Erik Hall)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:24:32 -0400
Subject: [ARTS] v. 1.3.1 and v.1.6.1
In-Reply-To: <000001c8e610$a31ea960$5d77b64c@alan4ee61c337d>
References: <000001c8e610$a31ea960$5d77b64c@alan4ee61c337d>
Message-ID: <003401c8e6e2$b38eb290$6701a8c0@Ozark1>

Alan,

 

You will need to upgrade the firmware in your ARTS1 to v1.61, then you can
use the new DataAnalyzer with both the ARTS1 and ARTS2.

 

I have a hunch your suspicion is correct: the two version probably are
interfering with each other.

 

If you are uncomfortable updating the ARTS1 firmware, or run into any
problems, please feel free to send it to me for re-programming.

 

Thanks,
Erik

 

 

 

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From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com]
On Behalf Of Alan Whitmore
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:21 PM
To: arts at lokiresearch.com
Subject: [ARTS] v. 1.3.1 and v.1.6.1

 

I asked this question a while back and got no answer, but I need to try
again to see if anyone has any experience to share about this problem.  Does
anybody know whether the v. 1.6.1 Data Analyzer package will download data
from the original ARTS1?

 

          I ask because I have recently purchased an ARTS2 and installed the
v. 1.6.1 software on my computer, and now, neither the old v. 1.3.1 software
or the new software package will connect to a COM port will unload data from
either the ARTS or ARTS2.  Both software packages inform me that they cannot
connect to COM1 (or COM2, or COM3, or COM4) as soon as I start them up.  I
suspect that the two software packages are somehow interfering with each
other and I am inclined to uninstall 1.3.1 and re-install 1.6.1, but I would
like some assurance that I could get data off of my ARTS(1) if I do that.

 

Alan

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From ehall at ozarkaerospace.com  Thu Jul 17 17:28:02 2008
From: ehall at ozarkaerospace.com (Erik Hall)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:28:02 -0400
Subject: [ARTS] v. 1.3.1 and v.1.6.1
In-Reply-To: <000b01c8e6ed$ae0e4eb0$5d77b64c@alan4ee61c337d>
References: <003401c8e6e2$b38eb290$6701a8c0@Ozark1>
	<000b01c8e6ed$ae0e4eb0$5d77b64c@alan4ee61c337d>
Message-ID: <003001c8e86d$23a563e0$6701a8c0@Ozark1>

Alan,

 

As soon as DataAnalyzer starts, it tries opening the COM port last used
(this is saved in the .ini file). The "cannot connect to COM1" means that,
for some reason, Windows is denying the use of COM1 to DataAnalyzer. Try
using HyperTerminal to connect to COM1, it should give you the same error. I
have seen Windows sometimes incorrectly "detect" serial devices, and then
assign them the port, effectively locking the port. (usually this can be
seen in Device manager as a "Microsoft Ballpoint Mouse") Check there to see
if you have any devices claiming COM1.

 

After upgrading the firmware, it should have said something to the effect of
"done, now turn the altimeter off and back on". It is concerning that it did
not do so for you.

 

Do you have another machin on which to try everything out, just so you know
everything is working?

 

Thanks,
Erik

 

 

 

 

  _____  

From: Alan Whitmore [mailto:acwhit at nc.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:43 PM
To: ehall at ozarkaerospace.com
Subject: RE: [ARTS] v. 1.3.1 and v.1.6.1

 

Erik,

          Many thanks for your reply!  I'm getting pretty frustrated here.

 

I have been corresponding with Jeff and he sent the Ozark link to get the
firmware.  I did that, or at least I think I did that, There was no message
at the end of the process that said "Installation complete" or anything like
that, it just stopped.

 

           I also un-installed v. 1.3.1.   But still, no matter what I do,
the instant I try to start Data Analyzer, I get the "cannot connect to COM1"
error and there everything stops.  If I try to check the firmware version, I
get the "altimeter is not in the correct state" error.  Where do I go from
here?

 

Alan

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Hall [mailto:ehall at ozarkaerospace.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:25 PM
To: arts at lokiresearch.com
Cc: 'Alan Whitmore'
Subject: RE: [ARTS] v. 1.3.1 and v.1.6.1

 

Alan,

 

You will need to upgrade the firmware in your ARTS1 to v1.61, then you can
use the new DataAnalyzer with both the ARTS1 and ARTS2.

 

I have a hunch your suspicion is correct: the two version probably are
interfering with each other.

 

If you are uncomfortable updating the ARTS1 firmware, or run into any
problems, please feel free to send it to me for re-programming.

 

Thanks,
Erik

 

 

 

  _____  

From: arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com [mailto:arts-bounces at lokiresearch.com]
On Behalf Of Alan Whitmore
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:21 PM
To: arts at lokiresearch.com
Subject: [ARTS] v. 1.3.1 and v.1.6.1

 

I asked this question a while back and got no answer, but I need to try
again to see if anyone has any experience to share about this problem.  Does
anybody know whether the v. 1.6.1 Data Analyzer package will download data
from the original ARTS1?

 

          I ask because I have recently purchased an ARTS2 and installed the
v. 1.6.1 software on my computer, and now, neither the old v. 1.3.1 software
or the new software package will connect to a COM port will unload data from
either the ARTS or ARTS2.  Both software packages inform me that they cannot
connect to COM1 (or COM2, or COM3, or COM4) as soon as I start them up.  I
suspect that the two software packages are somehow interfering with each
other and I am inclined to uninstall 1.3.1 and re-install 1.6.1, but I would
like some assurance that I could get data off of my ARTS(1) if I do that.

 

Alan

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From jritz1349 at comcast.net  Sat Jul 19 09:01:40 2008
From: jritz1349 at comcast.net (Johnny)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:01:40 -0500
Subject: [ARTS] ARTS1 and GPS/Telemetry unit
Message-ID: <009f01c8e9b8$bbd59490$8801a8c0@Raketemeister>

Hello Erik,

I have flewn my GPS/Telemetry unit with the ARTS1 (these are the old units I bought in 2005) the last two times but were 
not able to get GPS lock. The first time was in Oct 2007 at RG3 in Price, MD. The second time was in Jun 2008 at NERRF4 at Pine Island, NY. I have attached the two .BIN files for you to look at. Any ideas? I have flewn it before both 
at MDRA (Price, MD) and METRA (Pine Island, NY) fields and was able to get a lock then. Yes, I have some kevlar-carbon on the outside airframe. 

THX, John
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From ehall at ozarkaerospace.com  Sun Jul 20 16:44:42 2008
From: ehall at ozarkaerospace.com (Erik Hall)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:44:42 -0400
Subject: [ARTS] Problem with main firing in ARTS1
In-Reply-To: <00af01c8e9ba$a879e9d0$8801a8c0@Raketemeister>
References: <00af01c8e9ba$a879e9d0$8801a8c0@Raketemeister>
Message-ID: <001b01c8eac2$95afa390$6701a8c0@Ozark1>

John,

 

All of the recorded flight data looks really good. From what you say, it
sounds like the ARTS1 is functioning normally, and that the e-match that did
not fire during flight was a good ematch.  Perhaps a wire jiggled during
flight and broke connection? There's a pretty violent jerk at apogee
deployment.

 

As for the GPS lock, do you have a recorded log file that I can see?

 

Thanks,
Erik

 

 

 

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From: Johnny [mailto:jritz1349 at comcast.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:15 PM
To: ehall at ozarkaerospace.com
Cc: arts at LokiResearch.com
Subject: Problem with main firing in ARTS1

 

Hello again Erik,

 

I flew the ARTS1 (together with the ARTS GPS/Telemetry) at the NERRF4 launch
at Pine Island, NY.

The ARTS 1 did fire the apogee charge but did not fire the main charge.
Afterwards I connected the 

ARTS1 in my altimiter compartment to DataAnalyzer with the e-match that
didn't fire. I used the 

altimiter diagnostics to fire the main with the e-match that didn't fire in
flight. This time the the ARTS1 fired 

the e-match. Any ideas? The ARTS1 did beep continuity at pad. This was the
same flight where I did 

not get GPS lock (21JUN2008). I have attached the ARTS1 data from this
flight although it only shows up to 80 sec...

 

THX, John

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